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k a March Highlights and 2025 AoPS Online Class Information
jlacosta   0
Mar 2, 2025
March is the month for State MATHCOUNTS competitions! Kudos to everyone who participated in their local chapter competitions and best of luck to all going to State! Join us on March 11th for a Math Jam devoted to our favorite Chapter competition problems! Are you interested in training for MATHCOUNTS? Be sure to check out our AMC 8/MATHCOUNTS Basics and Advanced courses.

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Do you have plans this summer? There are so many options to fit your schedule and goals whether attending a summer camp or taking online classes, it can be a great break from the routine of the school year. Check out our summer courses at AoPS Online, or if you want a math or language arts class that doesn’t have homework, but is an enriching summer experience, our AoPS Virtual Campus summer camps may be just the ticket! We are expanding our locations for our AoPS Academies across the country with 15 locations so far and new campuses opening in Saratoga CA, Johns Creek GA, and the Upper West Side NY. Check out this page for summer camp information.

Be sure to mark your calendars for the following events:
[list][*]March 5th (Wednesday), 4:30pm PT/7:30pm ET, HCSSiM Math Jam 2025. Amber Verser, Assistant Director of the Hampshire College Summer Studies in Mathematics, will host an information session about HCSSiM, a summer program for high school students.
[*]March 6th (Thursday), 4:00pm PT/7:00pm ET, Free Webinar on Math Competitions from elementary through high school. Join us for an enlightening session that demystifies the world of math competitions and helps you make informed decisions about your contest journey.
[*]March 11th (Tuesday), 4:30pm PT/7:30pm ET, 2025 MATHCOUNTS Chapter Discussion MATH JAM. AoPS instructors will discuss some of their favorite problems from the MATHCOUNTS Chapter Competition. All are welcome!
[*]March 13th (Thursday), 4:00pm PT/7:00pm ET, Free Webinar about Summer Camps at the Virtual Campus. Transform your summer into an unforgettable learning adventure! From elementary through high school, we offer dynamic summer camps featuring topics in mathematics, language arts, and competition preparation - all designed to fit your schedule and ignite your passion for learning.[/list]
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jlacosta
Mar 2, 2025
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k i Peer-to-Peer Programs Forum
jwelsh   157
N Dec 11, 2023 by cw357
Many of our AoPS Community members share their knowledge with their peers in a variety of ways, ranging from creating mock contests to creating real contests to writing handouts to hosting sessions as part of our partnership with schoolhouse.world.

To facilitate students in these efforts, we have created a new Peer-to-Peer Programs forum. With the creation of this forum, we are starting a new process for those of you who want to advertise your efforts. These advertisements and ensuing discussions have been cluttering up some of the forums that were meant for other purposes, so we’re gathering these topics in one place. This also allows students to find new peer-to-peer learning opportunities without having to poke around all the other forums.

To announce your program, or to invite others to work with you on it, here’s what to do:

1) Post a new topic in the Peer-to-Peer Programs forum. This will be the discussion thread for your program.

2) Post a single brief post in this thread that links the discussion thread of your program in the Peer-to-Peer Programs forum.

Please note that we’ll move or delete any future advertisement posts that are outside the Peer-to-Peer Programs forum, as well as any posts in this topic that are not brief announcements of new opportunities. In particular, this topic should not be used to discuss specific programs; those discussions should occur in topics in the Peer-to-Peer Programs forum.

Your post in this thread should have what you're sharing (class, session, tutoring, handout, math or coding game/other program) and a link to the thread in the Peer-to-Peer Programs forum, which should have more information (like where to find what you're sharing).
157 replies
jwelsh
Mar 15, 2021
cw357
Dec 11, 2023
k i C&P posting recs by mods
v_Enhance   0
Jun 12, 2020
The purpose of this post is to lay out a few suggestions about what kind of posts work well for the C&P forum. Except in a few cases these are mostly meant to be "suggestions based on historical trends" rather than firm hard rules; we may eventually replace this with an actual list of firm rules but that requires admin approval :) That said, if you post something in the "discouraged" category, you should not be totally surprised if it gets locked; they are discouraged exactly because past experience shows they tend to go badly.
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1. Program discussion: Allowed
If you have questions about specific camps or programs (e.g. which classes are good at X camp?), these questions fit well here. Many camps/programs have specific sub-forums too but we understand a lot of them are not active.
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2. Results discussion: Allowed
You can make threads about e.g. how you did on contests (including AMC), though on AMC day when there is a lot of discussion. Moderators and administrators may do a lot of thread-merging / forum-wrangling to keep things in one place.
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3. Reposting solutions or questions to past AMC/AIME/USAMO problems: Allowed
This forum contains a post for nearly every problem from AMC8, AMC10, AMC12, AIME, USAJMO, USAMO (and these links give you an index of all these posts). It is always permitted to post a full solution to any problem in its own thread (linked above), regardless of how old the problem is, and even if this solution is similar to one that has already been posted. We encourage this type of posting because it is helpful for the user to explain their solution in full to an audience, and for future users who want to see multiple approaches to a problem or even just the frequency distribution of common approaches. We do ask for some explanation; if you just post "the answer is (B); ez" then you are not adding anything useful.

You are also encouraged to post questions about a specific problem in the specific thread for that problem, or about previous user's solutions. It's almost always better to use the existing thread than to start a new one, to keep all the discussion in one place easily searchable for future visitors.
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4. Advice posts: Allowed, but read below first
You can use this forum to ask for advice about how to prepare for math competitions in general. But you should be aware that this question has been asked many many times. Before making a post, you are encouraged to look at the following:
[list]
[*] Stop looking for the right training: A generic post about advice that keeps getting stickied :)
[*] There is an enormous list of links on the Wiki of books / problems / etc for all levels.
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When you do post, we really encourage you to be as specific as possible in your question. Tell us about your background, what you've tried already, etc.

Actually, the absolute best way to get a helpful response is to take a few examples of problems that you tried to solve but couldn't, and explain what you tried on them / why you couldn't solve them. Here is a great example of a specific question.
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5. Publicity: use P2P forum instead
See https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/c5h2489297_peertopeer_programs_forum.
Some exceptions have been allowed in the past, but these require approval from administrators. (I am not totally sure what the criteria is. I am not an administrator.)
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6. Mock contests: use Mock Contests forum instead
Mock contests should be posted in the dedicated forum instead:
https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/c594864_aops_mock_contests
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7. AMC procedural questions: suggest to contact the AMC HQ instead
If you have a question like "how do I submit a change of venue form for the AIME" or "why is my name not on the qualifiers list even though I have a 300 index", you would be better off calling or emailing the AMC program to ask, they are the ones who can help you :)
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8. Discussion of random math problems: suggest to use MSM/HSM/HSO instead
If you are discussing a specific math problem that isn't from the AMC/AIME/USAMO, it's better to post these in Middle School Math, High School Math, High School Olympiads instead.
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9. Politics: suggest to use Round Table instead
There are important conversations to be had about things like gender diversity in math contests, etc., for sure. However, from experience we think that C&P is historically not a good place to have these conversations, as they go off the rails very quickly. We encourage you to use the Round Table instead, where it is much more clear that all posts need to be serious.
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10. MAA complaints: discouraged
We don't want to pretend that the MAA is perfect or that we agree with everything they do. However, we chose to discourage this sort of behavior because in practice most of the comments we see are not useful and some are frankly offensive.
[list] [*] If you just want to blow off steam, do it on your blog instead.
[*] When you have criticism, it should be reasoned, well-thought and constructive. What we mean by this is, for example, when the AOIME was announced, there was great outrage about potential cheating. Well, do you really think that this is something the organizers didn't think about too? Simply posting that "people will cheat and steal my USAMOO qualification, the MAA are idiots!" is not helpful as it is not bringing any new information to the table.
[*] Even if you do have reasoned, well-thought, constructive criticism, we think it is actually better to email it the MAA instead, rather than post it here. Experience shows that even polite, well-meaning suggestions posted in C&P are often derailed by less mature users who insist on complaining about everything.
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11. Memes and joke posts: discouraged
It's fine to make jokes or lighthearted posts every so often. But it should be done with discretion. Ideally, jokes should be done within a longer post that has other content. For example, in my response to one user's question about olympiad combinatorics, I used a silly picture of Sogiita Gunha, but it was done within a context of a much longer post where it was meant to actually make a point.

On the other hand, there are many threads which consist largely of posts whose only content is an attached meme with the word "MAA" in it. When done in excess like this, the jokes reflect poorly on the community, so we explicitly discourage them.
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12. Questions that no one can answer: discouraged
Examples of this: "will MIT ask for AOIME scores?", "what will the AIME 2021 cutoffs be (asked in 2020)", etc. Basically, if you ask a question on this forum, it's better if the question is something that a user can plausibly answer :)
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13. Blind speculation: discouraged
Along these lines, if you do see a question that you don't have an answer to, we discourage "blindly guessing" as it leads to spreading of baseless rumors. For example, if you see some user posting "why are there fewer qualifiers than usual this year?", you should not reply "the MAA must have been worried about online cheating so they took fewer people!!". Was sich überhaupt sagen lässt, lässt sich klar sagen; und wovon man nicht reden kann, darüber muss man schweigen.
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14. Discussion of cheating: strongly discouraged
If you have evidence or reasonable suspicion of cheating, please report this to your Competition Manager or to the AMC HQ; these forums cannot help you.
Otherwise, please avoid public discussion of cheating. That is: no discussion of methods of cheating, no speculation about how cheating affects cutoffs, and so on --- it is not helpful to anyone, and it creates a sour atmosphere. A longer explanation is given in Seriously, please stop discussing how to cheat.
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15. Cutoff jokes: never allowed
Whenever the cutoffs for any major contest are released, it is very obvious when they are official. In the past, this has been achieved by the numbers being posted on the official AMC website (here) or through a post from the AMCDirector account.

You must never post fake cutoffs, even as a joke. You should also refrain from posting cutoffs that you've heard of via email, etc., because it is better to wait for the obvious official announcement. A longer explanation is given in A Treatise on Cutoff Trolling.
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16. Meanness: never allowed
Being mean is worse than being immature and unproductive. If another user does something which you think is inappropriate, use the Report button to bring the post to moderator attention, or if you really must reply, do so in a way that is tactful and constructive rather than inflammatory.
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Finally, we remind you all to sit back and enjoy the problems. :D

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(EDIT 2024-09-13: AoPS has asked to me to add the following item.)

Advertising paid program or service: never allowed

Per the AoPS Terms of Service (rule 5h), general advertisements are not allowed.

While we do allow advertisements of official contests (at the MAA and MATHCOUNTS level) and those run by college students with at least one successful year, any and all advertisements of a paid service or program is not allowed and will be deleted.
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v_Enhance
Jun 12, 2020
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k i Stop looking for the "right" training
v_Enhance   50
N Oct 16, 2017 by blawho12
Source: Contest advice
EDIT 2019-02-01: https://blog.evanchen.cc/2019/01/31/math-contest-platitudes-v3/ is the updated version of this.

EDIT 2021-06-09: see also https://web.evanchen.cc/faq-contest.html.

Original 2013 post
50 replies
v_Enhance
Feb 15, 2013
blawho12
Oct 16, 2017
Day Before Tips
elasticwealth   46
N 2 minutes ago by Bnn81351
Hi Everyone,

USA(J)MO is tomorrow. I am a Junior, so this is my last chance. I made USAMO by ZERO points but I've actually been studying oly seriously since JMO last year. I am more stressed than I was before AMC/AIME because I feel Olympiad is more unpredictable and harder to prepare for. I am fairly confident in my ability to solve 1/4 but whether I can solve the rest really leans on the topic distribution.

Anyway, I'm just super stressed and not sure what to do. All tips are welcome!

Thanks everyone! Good luck tomorrow!
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elasticwealth
Yesterday at 12:09 AM
Bnn81351
2 minutes ago
USA(J)MO Discussion when?
sixoneeight   3
N 29 minutes ago by Yrock
when can we discuss the 2025 usa(j)mo/post the problems?
3 replies
sixoneeight
2 hours ago
Yrock
29 minutes ago
9 What motivates you
AndrewZhong2012   64
N an hour ago by booking
What got you guys into math? I'm asking because I got ~71 on the AMC 12B and 94.5 on 10A last year. This year, my dad expects me to get a 130 on 12B and 10 on AIME, but I have sort of lost motivation, and I know these goals will be impossible to achieve without said motivation.
64 replies
AndrewZhong2012
Feb 22, 2025
booking
an hour ago
Burnout?
xHypotenuse   11
N 2 hours ago by ishan.panpaliya
Hello everyone, these days I have a burning urge to pick up new math concepts because I think they are important/interesting. But I also feel a constant burnout where I get really tired when I try to solve math problems of these new concepts. I can't and then it gets very demotivating. I don't want to take a break from math because solving problems have become such a natural part of me and also I really want to qualify for usamo next year (my last year I can since it's senior yr). Any suggestions?
11 replies
xHypotenuse
Tuesday at 7:32 PM
ishan.panpaliya
2 hours ago
average FE
KevinYang2.71   79
N 4 hours ago by jasperE3
Source: USAJMO 2024/5
Find all functions $f:\mathbb{R}\rightarrow\mathbb{R}$ that satisfy
\[
f(x^2-y)+2yf(x)=f(f(x))+f(y)
\]for all $x,y\in\mathbb{R}$.

Proposed by Carl Schildkraut
79 replies
KevinYang2.71
Mar 21, 2024
jasperE3
4 hours ago
Gardens of Rectangular Grids
djmathman   68
N 4 hours ago by Maximilian113
Source: 2013 USAJMO Problem 2
Each cell of an $m\times n$ board is filled with some nonnegative integer. Two numbers in the filling are said to be adjacent if their cells share a common side. (Note that two numbers in cells that share only a corner are not adjacent). The filling is called a garden if it satisfies the following two conditions:

(i) The difference between any two adjacent numbers is either $0$ or $1$.
(ii) If a number is less than or equal to all of its adjacent numbers, then it is equal to $0$.

Determine the number of distinct gardens in terms of $m$ and $n$.
68 replies
djmathman
Apr 30, 2013
Maximilian113
4 hours ago
hcssim application question
enya_yurself   4
N 5 hours ago by akliu
do they send the Interesting Test to everyone who applied or do they read the friendly letter first and only send to the kids they like?
4 replies
enya_yurself
Mar 17, 2025
akliu
5 hours ago
Good luck on olympiads tomorrow!
observer04   6
N 5 hours ago by mrtheory
Hello mortals!

For those of you that qualified for the USAMO / USAJMO, I have a message for you! Remember to have fun! And enjoy the experience! Personally, I did not qualify for the USAMO / USAJMO! But I am still eager to try the high quality thought-provoking problems! As I once said... it's not all about the score!

Furthermore, for those like myself who failed along the way, it's A-OK! Don't worry, fellows! Remember to smile and enjoy your lives! There is more than math out there!


Warmest Regards
6 replies
observer04
Yesterday at 1:27 AM
mrtheory
5 hours ago
Trapezoid ABCD
tenniskidperson3   52
N Yesterday at 6:17 PM by MathRook7817
Source: 2009 USAMO problem 5
Trapezoid $ ABCD$, with $ \overline{AB}||\overline{CD}$, is inscribed in circle $ \omega$ and point $ G$ lies inside triangle $ BCD$. Rays $ AG$ and $ BG$ meet $ \omega$ again at points $ P$ and $ Q$, respectively. Let the line through $ G$ parallel to $ \overline{AB}$ intersects $ \overline{BD}$ and $ \overline{BC}$ at points $ R$ and $ S$, respectively. Prove that quadrilateral $ PQRS$ is cyclic if and only if $ \overline{BG}$ bisects $ \angle CBD$.
52 replies
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tenniskidperson3
Apr 30, 2009
MathRook7817
Yesterday at 6:17 PM
MAN IS KID
DrMath   135
N Yesterday at 4:52 PM by thdnder
Source: USAMO 2017 P3, Evan Chen
Let $ABC$ be a scalene triangle with circumcircle $\Omega$ and incenter $I$. Ray $AI$ meets $\overline{BC}$ at $D$ and meets $\Omega$ again at $M$; the circle with diameter $\overline{DM}$ cuts $\Omega$ again at $K$. Lines $MK$ and $BC$ meet at $S$, and $N$ is the midpoint of $\overline{IS}$. The circumcircles of $\triangle KID$ and $\triangle MAN$ intersect at points $L_1$ and $L_2$. Prove that $\Omega$ passes through the midpoint of either $\overline{IL_1}$ or $\overline{IL_2}$.

Proposed by Evan Chen
135 replies
DrMath
Apr 19, 2017
thdnder
Yesterday at 4:52 PM
College Math Competitions
gavinhaominwang   6
N Yesterday at 7:41 AM by xHypotenuse
What are the major competitions that take place at college? For example HMMT.
6 replies
gavinhaominwang
Yesterday at 1:39 AM
xHypotenuse
Yesterday at 7:41 AM
Does anyone see USAJMO on their portal
averageguy   3
N Yesterday at 4:41 AM by MathRook7817
On my portal underneath "competition available to be taken" I see nothing there even though I'm supposed to take the USAJMO tomorrow. Does anyone else see USA(J)MO underneath there. Is it supposed to appear there only tomorrow.
3 replies
averageguy
Yesterday at 3:13 AM
MathRook7817
Yesterday at 4:41 AM
Evan's mean blackboard game
hwl0304   71
N Yesterday at 3:24 AM by quantam13
Source: 2019 USAMO Problem 5, 2019 USAJMO Problem 6
Two rational numbers \(\tfrac{m}{n}\) and \(\tfrac{n}{m}\) are written on a blackboard, where \(m\) and \(n\) are relatively prime positive integers. At any point, Evan may pick two of the numbers \(x\) and \(y\) written on the board and write either their arithmetic mean \(\tfrac{x+y}{2}\) or their harmonic mean \(\tfrac{2xy}{x+y}\) on the board as well. Find all pairs \((m,n)\) such that Evan can write 1 on the board in finitely many steps.

Proposed by Yannick Yao
71 replies
1 viewing
hwl0304
Apr 18, 2019
quantam13
Yesterday at 3:24 AM
Convolution of order f(n)
trumpeter   75
N Yesterday at 3:04 AM by quantam13
Source: 2019 USAMO Problem 1
Let $\mathbb{N}$ be the set of positive integers. A function $f:\mathbb{N}\to\mathbb{N}$ satisfies the equation \[\underbrace{f(f(\ldots f}_{f(n)\text{ times}}(n)\ldots))=\frac{n^2}{f(f(n))}\]for all positive integers $n$. Given this information, determine all possible values of $f(1000)$.

Proposed by Evan Chen
75 replies
trumpeter
Apr 17, 2019
quantam13
Yesterday at 3:04 AM
My opinions on this years AIMES problems+cutoff range??
isache   35
N Mar 18, 2025 by axusus
1: Little bit harder than most Nr 1's, but you can just bash this out either way.
2. Kinda annoying, but once u break it down it isnt that bad. Average nr2.
3. Cool problem, just break it down into the 3 cases and it isnt too bad. Tiny bit easy for a n3.
4. Dividing by xy, x^2, or y^2 makes this problem a lot easier. You can also factor. avg no 4.
5. Easily sillyable again, kinda annoying for a nr 5. Honestly I would switch no 5 and 6.
6. Pretty simple if you use pithot. If not it can be difficult. Avg no 6.
7. Very hard for a nr7. The whole problem itself is not bad, just it is extremely sillyable
8. Very bashy, and not super easy to solve, but putting this one on a cartesian plane makes it easier. Harder than last years nr8 by a mile.
9. Easy if you see the trick, impossible if not. Without the trick, this problem becomes super bashy, but probably avg nr9. I spent like 1hr on this to absolutely no avail. I got into an equation with degree 6 bc I didnt see the trick.
10. Not very easy, as you have to break it down well for the solution to flow nicely. Quite hard for a nr10 imo
11. Difficult to understand, but once you have the hang of it down it is not horrible. Despite this, many struggled to understand it in the first place. Fairly hard for a nr 11.
12. Lotta people struggle to graph inequalities in 3d planes (So do I). little hard for a nr 12.
13. Very confusing for a bunch of people (including me). Avg for a nr 13 tho.
14. Super hard problem, but extremely elegant. Fermats point is a cool concept here. Hard for a nr 14 tho
15. LTE helps a lot. Honestly I would switch 14 and 15.

Overall, I think problems 1-6 were avg for an aime, but after that the problem got significantly harder. Much harder than last yrs imo. Tough to say what cutoffs will be given all that has gone last year. Tbf I predict sub 220 for both 10a and 10b, but I could be wrong. We kinda just have to wait and see.
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isache
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1: Little bit harder than most Nr 1's, but you can just bash this out either way.
2. Kinda annoying, but once u break it down it isnt that bad. Average nr2.
3. Cool problem, just break it down into the 3 cases and it isnt too bad. Tiny bit easy for a n3.
4. Dividing by xy, x^2, or y^2 makes this problem a lot easier. You can also factor. avg no 4.
5. Easily sillyable again, kinda annoying for a nr 5. Honestly I would switch no 5 and 6.
6. Pretty simple if you use pithot. If not it can be difficult. Avg no 6.
7. Very hard for a nr7. The whole problem itself is not bad, just it is extremely sillyable
8. Very bashy, and not super easy to solve, but putting this one on a cartesian plane makes it easier. Harder than last years nr8 by a mile.
9. Easy if you see the trick, impossible if not. Without the trick, this problem becomes super bashy, but probably avg nr9. I spent like 1hr on this to absolutely no avail. I got into an equation with degree 6 bc I didnt see the trick.
10. Not very easy, as you have to break it down well for the solution to flow nicely. Quite hard for a nr10 imo
11. Difficult to understand, but once you have the hang of it down it is not horrible. Despite this, many struggled to understand it in the first place. Fairly hard for a nr 11.
12. Lotta people struggle to graph inequalities in 3d planes (So do I). little hard for a nr 12.
13. Very confusing for a bunch of people (including me). Avg for a nr 13 tho.
14. Super hard problem, but extremely elegant. Fermats point is a cool concept here. Hard for a nr 14 tho
15. LTE helps a lot. Honestly I would switch 14 and 15.

Overall, I think problems 1-6 were avg for an aime, but after that the problem got significantly harder. Much harder than last yrs imo. Tough to say what cutoffs will be given all that has gone last year. Tbf I predict sub 220 for both 10a and 10b, but I could be wrong. We kinda just have to wait and see.
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TiguhBabeHwo
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my opinions (because i'm bored)
1. normal and easy to see the bash
2. pretty hard for a p2 imo
3. easy problem with an easy extraction, nice p3
4. avg no 4 and the factoring is pretty easy to see
5. it gets a little tougher from here, but still about a normal p5, the divisibility trick is pretty well known
6. really easy p6 lol
7. this problem is a little bit difficult for its place with the casework and possibility for a silly but if you invest time into it it's not too bad
8. kind of just a buffed up version of p7 last year (assuming you used the geometric consideration last year, which i think i was the only one who did) but i think it was pretty average for its place because it's kinda just a brainless bash
9. i thought it was an easy problem but after seeing how many people struggled with the (probably more comprehensive) more difficult solution instead of symmetry, it's pretty avg for a p9
10. easy p10 ngl, the idea isn't hard to see and there are a lot of different ways to approach this
11. i felt like this was a bit of a sillyable p11 but it's still a little bit easy for its place and a lot of my friends who don't do comp math *that* much solved this problem
12. this was actually somewhat hard and required a lot of knowledge to solve but it's about an average or a little bit harder than normal p12 in my opinion
p13: average difficulty, felt really sillyable lol
p14: hard for a p14 but it's a very cool problem
p15: a little easy for its placement (i didn't solve this but i know a lot of people who almost did)

overall: a littttttle bit harder than last year but definitely easier than 2023/2022 for usajmo cuoff (i know this is an unpopular opinion) because the middle problems weren't very hard to do in my opinion when comparing to those years, at least when asking others around my level a year ago
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isache
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TiguhBabeHwo wrote:
my opinions (because i'm bored)
1. normal and easy to see the bash
2. pretty hard for a p2 imo
3. easy problem with an easy extraction, nice p3
4. avg no 4 and the factoring is pretty easy to see
5. it gets a little tougher from here, but still about a normal p5, the divisibility trick is pretty well known
6. really easy p6 lol
7. this problem is a little bit difficult for its place with the casework and possibility for a silly but if you invest time into it it's not too bad
8. kind of just a buffed up version of p7 last year (assuming you used the geometric consideration last year, which i think i was the only one who did) but i think it was pretty average for its place because it's kinda just a brainless bash
9. i thought it was an easy problem but after seeing how many people struggled with the (probably more comprehensive) more difficult solution instead of symmetry, it's pretty avg for a p9
10. easy p10 ngl, the idea isn't hard to see and there are a lot of different ways to approach this
11. i felt like this was a bit of a sillyable p11 but it's still a little bit easy for its place and a lot of my friends who don't do comp math *that* much solved this problem
12. this was actually somewhat hard and required a lot of knowledge to solve but it's about an average or a little bit harder than normal p12 in my opinion
p13: average difficulty, felt really sillyable lol
p14: hard for a p14 but it's a very cool problem
p15: a little easy for its placement (i didn't solve this but i know a lot of people who almost did)

overall: a littttttle bit harder than last year but definitely easier than 2023/2022 for usajmo cuoff (i know this is an unpopular opinion) because the middle problems weren't very hard to do in my opinion when comparing to those years, at least when asking others around my level a year ago

Tbf the jmo cutoff relies mainly on problem 7-10, as most people who qualify for jmo by the skin of their teeth tend to mainly solve these problems, and a fair chunk of ppl can get the first 6. I agree with most of what ur saying, as there were sooo many sillyable problems, which will prolly tank cutoffs (as seen before with 10A). Only one I kinda dont agree with u on is 10, bc I feel like that one is kinda sillyable bc of how many exponents there are and just the fact that you have to structure it kinda meticulously. I think its abt same as 2023 aime, but not 2022 hard.
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megarnie
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2023 aime is agreed to be harder than 2022 (for i at least)

also going back to p10, a lot of aime questions in this range are quite sillyable, and in this one, the idea was easier to find than in some other p10s

similar thing with p7 also
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isache
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Yeah ig just with ppl i know a lot got cooked by it. I dont think it is necessarily hard if you have done a lot of c/p problems and have experience, but for a lotta ppl this kinda isnt the case.
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Also I switched 2023 and 2022 i got confused mb
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wuwang2002
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imo p14 was hella contrived
you're supposed to realize that the fermat point of ACD lies on BE
p11 was a goofy ahh problem that i luckily got
i think p10 was relatively easy for a p10 since it was just a tiny bit of casework, but i sillied it because i added wrong in the extraction (rip 71 instead of 81) :wallbash_red:

in total there's too much combo that wasn't exactly hard since an anti-combo main like me could solve it pretty quickly
but the combo took up spots that would be better left to geo for example

also p2 was funny
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Tetra_scheme
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1. very easy p1
2. hard p2
3. moderate p3
4. easy p4
5. mid-hard p5
6. p1 difficulty
7. mid for p7
8. slightly hard p8
9. easy p9
10. very easy p10
11. normal p11
12. normal p12
13. slightly hard p13
14. hard p14
15. hard p15
low 220s and much easier than 2023
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zoo1202
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1. ok for p1, easily accessible, could trip up if not being very careful
2. hard for p2, huge timesink if you don't see it (if you do, its whatever)
3. easy for p3 ( :wacko: ) 3 cases and boom
4. I honestly think a little easy for p4 (except maybe the overcount but I feel like it's pretty obvious here). factorization, 2 cases, and done.
5. a little hard p5, divisibility trick, but casework might trip some up
6. very easy for p6. to be real, if anyone is aiming for jmo, this problem most likely took them 5-10 minutes.
7. hard for p7. idea is novel & many places to trip up here.
8. hard for p8. It's ok if you see the geometric interpretation, but if not, you have a huge bash / time sink question (that has a million different places that it can fail).
9. standard for p9. more coordinate geometry! yay! not very hard to see a solution that takes minimal time, and I guess you can bash otherwise?
10. very easy for p10. careful 2 cases does it for you.
11. easy for p11. throwback to last year, but just take 2 cases on positive/negative slope and carefully navigate to get the right answer.
12. hard for p12. intimidating asf (I didnt solve)
13. standard for p13. real solution requires some insight, but its surprisingly easy to fakesolve
14. hard for p14. fermat point is diabolical
15. can't judge, but seems standard for p15
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mysterynotfound
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my thoughts even though im bad
1: a bit more silly-able than most p1s, but easy (as it should be)
2: intimidating diagram that doesnt do anything besides scare ppl lmfao, relatively straightforward after seeing the shaded area = triangle area, can be sillied easily esp if you did not squared ratios (you'd get 504)
3: simple easy, nothing wild for p3
4: just use quadratic formula (I tried looking for a smart factoring aka sfft but its not that deep)
5: lowk a bit tougher and very unusual problem imo but nothing crazy
6: light problem and geo is my worst topic lmao
7: very sillyable (got diff answers multiple times) and can be kinda tricky cuz casework, but be careful and youre fine
8: coord bashy and lowk a tough problem esp if you dont know geo interpretation of complex numbers
9: either extremely difficult (if you tried factoring quartic equation) or extremely cheese (equilateral triangle line cheese aka what I did), pretty 50/50 depending on what you did, although some ppl prob wouldn't trust the cheese cuz its p9
10: pretty easy ig but lowk a weird problem, just casework, a few diff ways to do
11: nerfed version of 2024 aime 1 p12, kinda annoying but not that hard tbh, although hard to understand the problem
12: what in the 3d plane is this problem, apparently not as crazy as one might think according to friends
13: confusing problem statement, sillyable casework
14: very hard geo but very cool solution
15: LTE ig
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mathwiz_1207
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wuwang2002 wrote:
imo p14 was hella contrived
idk how qualified i am to answer this since i didn't solve in test but you could've alternatively motivated it with ptolemy's which was less config heavy
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xHypotenuse
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1. mid-hard
2. hard
3. easy (somehow I sillied)
4. easy (somehow I sillied AGAIN)
5. hard, esp. due to divisibility and cases, and having to make the realization that even digits = odd digits before going into casework
6. free takes 2min lol
7. about right, but i've heard it was quite sillyable
8. mid-hard (I vietabashed this took 40 minutes oops)
9. easy if you see the trick, impossible if not
10. mid-hard
11. easy
12. hard due to ppl not being used to 3D.
13 - 15. idk can't rlly provide my opinions on stuff I can't solve
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isache
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This is my opinion on the aime I's so far, 2024<2022<2025<2022. Kinda annoying how many sillyable problems have showed up on recent MAA tests.
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TiguhBabeHwo
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2020 < 2024 < 2021 < 2025 <<< 2022 < 2023 (imo)
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BS2012
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2024<2020<2025<2022 <<< 2023<2021
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Happyllamaalways
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Crazy part is that out of all AIME's since 2016 II (which I mocked a 13 on), 2025 I is the highest score I got (11)
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Happyllamaalways
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1. Typical Q1 but easy to fall into the trap if you forgot that b>9
2. Triangle and trapezoid area bash
3. Mid distribution bash
4. Easy but easy to make a stupid mistake if you forget that both x and y must be integers
5. Very hard for a Q5, feels more like a Q11
6. Free Q6, requires few brain cells
7. Slightly easier Q5 type problem but very easy to make a stupid mistake
8. Requires calculus unless you are insanely good at graphing coordinate geometry
9. Very skibidi Q9. If you find the key to solving it then it is free, but otherwise it is impossible.
10. Creating and expanding an expression with a gazillion terms in it and then condensing it into a prime factorization
11. Nice Q11, especially considering you are able to (somewhat) check you have the correct answer. Definitely better and a lot easier than last year's absolutely diabolical (AIME 2) Q11.
12-15. USAMO-level problems
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Awesomeness_in_a_bun
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Happyllamaalways wrote:
1. Typical Q1 but easy to fall into the trap if you forgot that b>9
2. Triangle and trapezoid area bash
3. Mid distribution bash
4. Easy but easy to make a stupid mistake if you forget that both x and y must be integers
5. Very hard for a Q5, feels more like a Q11
6. Free Q6, requires few brain cells
7. Slightly easier Q5 type problem but very easy to make a stupid mistake
8. Requires calculus unless you are insanely good at graphing coordinate geometry
9. Very skibidi Q9. If you find the key to solving it then it is free, but otherwise it is impossible.
10. Creating and expanding an expression with a gazillion terms in it and then condensing it into a prime factorization
11. Nice Q11, especially considering you are able to (somewhat) check you have the correct answer. Definitely better and a lot easier than last year's absolutely diabolical (AIME 2) Q11.
12-15. USAMO-level problems

@above

could you explain how p8 requires calculus
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nathan2019lu
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1. Not hard unless you forgot b>9
2. One trick and done, kinda goofy
3. A bit bashy for p3 and silliable
4. Not that hard to factor or quadratic formula
5. Generic combo p5
6. Too easy for p6
7. Decent problem but still kinda bashy
8. Draw stuff and hope it's right
9. Easy if you use symmetry, cancer if you don't
10. Nice problem that makes you think uniquely
11. 2024 i p12
12. Hard to visualize, nice problem
13. Kinda easy for p13 but silliable
14. idk cant solve, but prob hard for p14
15. A few tricks that are clever to find
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vEnxooks
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1. Pretty easy, can be easily bashed
2. Honestly had a little trouble on this, but not that hard
3. Quick and simple, trivial by Burnside's Lemma
4. I didn't like this geometry, was very contrived
5. lol XOOKS
6. Struggled a little, but once you realize $\angle{ABC} = 120$, it is easy from there
7. Light number theory. cool algebraic manipulation for this problem
8. Didn't do
9. Esay coordbash
10. Didn't do
11. Guessed right LOLOLOLL
12. Really cool and nontrivial problem. It took a lot of thinking to do this. I liked the usage of symmedian.
13. bruh i sillied this
14. pretty easy for a p14, just split it up by the even and the odd case and should be good form therere.
15. Easiest p15 since like 2012 or something
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mathwiz_1207
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where did the symmedian come from on p12 :skull:
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Schintalpati
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mathwiz_1207 wrote:
where did the symmedian come from on p12 :skull:

thought I was tripping for a sec :skull:
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ABC09090927
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My opinions (somewhat controversial)
1: Honestly probably the most difficult in the first 3. Requires some sense in number theory and some bashing.
2: Quite simple once you see the trick. The desired area is just the area of the big triangle. Easy if you see it.
3: Extremely easy counting problem. Literally took me less than 5 minutes.
4: Somewhat difficult, but dividing by xy/x^2/y^2 helps. Or I used quadratic formula treating y as a constant. Didn't solve it the first time around, had to come back
5: Took me a long time. Very easy to count wrong, the concepts aren't too bad but careless error galore here.
6: Quite easy geometry problem. Can be very bashy if you try to extend the trapezoid into a big triangle but honestly just draw a height and you get a triangle with sides 1/2(r-s), 6, 1/2(r+s)
7: Pretty bad counting problem. Isn't quite bad, but I read the question wrong the first time. Honestly, just split into 2 major cases and be careful when counting.
8: Pretty easy if you see it. Convert it into the coordinate system and you get a circle and want to find the two lines tangent to it. Just plug and chug in the distance formula
9: Easy if you see the trick, literally impossible if you don't. I tried using a transformation matrix and failed horribly after getting a quartic. See the symmetry and the solution is on the 30 degree rotation axis
10: Very hard for no10 imo. Still don't quite know to solve, but I have a general idea. Seems very hard though.
11: Extremely easy, just plug and chug the quadratic formula 4 times. Pure bashing, no thinking. Takes some time though.
12: Seems very hard.
13: Thought about it did it horribly wrong. Seems very tricky, but there is definitely some "trick" to successfully solving it.
14: Like insanely hard problem. Still don't have an idea to solve.
15: Was on the right track but ran out of time, doesn't seem too too difficult though. Lots of cases to consider and count though...

Again, guys don't mind me I'm not that insanely smart as you guys (all getting 230+ is insane this year), I only got 8 on AIME this year, but I feel pretty good about it. 192.5 JMO index score is decent this year but I think this year's tests were definitely much harder than previous years (controversial). A lot of questions felt sillyable but also if you can't think of using the right method, you're basically cooked...
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megarnie
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1. normal
2. hardish for a 2, but im bad at geo so it's probably well placed
3. xoinkers this is too ez
4. good
5. a little hard but not bad
6. a little easy for position (and I say this being a geo antimain)
7. i thought it was a bit easy, but apparently a lot of people sillied so maybe it's normal
8. the geometric solution is nice but the bash is not that hard to execute (especially if you eliminate fractions)
9. xoinkers
10. i guess it's sillyable, but the idea itself isn't that hard to find
11. nice; a little easy but not that easy
12. didn't find it that hard but I used double integrals
13. didnt do
14. didnt do but heard it's hard
15. i didnt find this too bad for a p15, but ig it is sillyable and the main idea isnt trivial to find
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pi_is_3.14
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My personal thoughts: 1 - 8 were approximately normal difficulty,

9 and 10 were slightly hard for their positions, 9 had a tricky idea (or bashy solution) and 10 has somewhat tricky casework,

11 and 12 were normal for their positions, p11 was relatively straightforward although being long, p12 was extremely quick but required a little visualization

13 was quite easy for a number 13 due to it being relatively straightforward once you realize that each intersection point adds an extra region,

14 was tough for a p14 for sure, the fermat point realization is tricky and the ptolemy's solutions are equally hard

15 was pretty normal (maybe on the easier side) for it's position, somewhat long casework + binom/LTE but not very tricky
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MathPerson12321
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pi_is_3.14 wrote:
My personal thoughts: 1 - 8 were approximately normal difficulty,

9 and 10 were slightly hard for their positions, 9 had a tricky idea (or bashy solution) and 10 has somewhat tricky casework,

11 and 12 were normal for their positions, p11 was relatively straightforward although being long, p12 was extremely quick but required a little visualization

13 was quite easy for a number 13 due to it being relatively straightforward once you realize that each intersection point adds an extra region,

14 was tough for a p14 for sure, the fermat point realization is tricky and the ptolemy's solutions are equally hard

15 was pretty normal (maybe on the easier side) for it's position, somewhat long casework + binom/LTE but not very tricky

my thoughts:
p3 should be p1
p4 should be p2 (factoring bruh)
p2 should be p4
p6 should be p3
p1 should be p5
p5 should be p6
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MockTest2.0
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I do not like the opinions and intentions expressed here. The 2025 AIME I is not just a test; rather, it is a collection of beautiful ideas, arranged in a way to captivate and tickle the intellect of the test taker. Please do not so bluntly objectify the problems by calling them "easy", "bad", "hard", or whatever else you may think. These problems are the embodiments of beautiful mathematical ideas and premises and should be treated with the according respect. Thank you.
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axusus
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p6/p10 were the easiest questions -_-
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Happyllamaalways
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MockTest2.0 wrote:
I do not like the opinions and intentions expressed here. The 2025 AIME I is not just a test; rather, it is a collection of beautiful ideas, arranged in a way to captivate and tickle the intellect of the test taker. Please do not so bluntly objectify the problems by calling them "easy", "bad", "hard", or whatever else you may think. These problems are the embodiments of beautiful mathematical ideas and premises and should be treated with the according respect. Thank you.

Q3, Q5, Q7, Q8, Q10, Q11 (literally just bash)
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Mr.Sharkman
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Happyllamaalways wrote:
MockTest2.0 wrote:
I do not like the opinions and intentions expressed here. The 2025 AIME I is not just a test; rather, it is a collection of beautiful ideas, arranged in a way to captivate and tickle the intellect of the test taker. Please do not so bluntly objectify the problems by calling them "easy", "bad", "hard", or whatever else you may think. These problems are the embodiments of beautiful mathematical ideas and premises and should be treated with the according respect. Thank you.

Q3, Q5, Q7, Q8, Q10, Q11 (literally just bash)

Exactly lol (im not sure if Q3 was bash; it was like 2 cases lmao)
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Airbus320-214
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1, very easy, like the first five questions on amc12
2, easy for p2, should be in 1
3, medium, might be a little bashy
4, mid-easy, but might double count (0,0)
5, mid, bashy, lots of calculations
6, easy with trig
7, bashy, I didn’t make it, difficulty might be mid for 7
8, mid, can be bashy
9, very easy and I think it’s misplaced, should be #4-6
10, mid-easy, just be careful with powers
11, easy but caculation mistakes might be common
12, hard to imagine otherwise ok
13, hard, might get 154 instead of 204, didn’t make it
14, hard and my geo is bad, didn’t make it
15, hard, LTE, bashy, didn’t make it
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Airbus320-214
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axusus wrote:
p6/p10 were the easiest questions -_-

Also 9
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TiguhBabeHwo
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nah p1 was defo easier than 10
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MathPerson12321
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axusus wrote:
p6/p10 were the easiest questions -_-

troller
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DoctorTiger
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1. Diabolical
2. Trivs
3. Trivs
4. Trivs
5. Trivs
6. Trivs
7. Trivvy
8. Trivvy
9. Trivs
10. Misplaced
11. Trivvy
12. Too easy to guess
13. Trivs
14. Trivs
15. Too easy to guess
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axusus
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MathPerson12321 wrote:
axusus wrote:
p6/p10 were the easiest questions -_-

troller

wait what im legit
ong i barely did anything else than that
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