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k a May Highlights and 2025 AoPS Online Class Information
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May 1, 2025
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k i Adding contests to the Contest Collections
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N Apr 5, 2023 by v_Enhance
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k i Zero tolerance
ZetaX   49
N May 4, 2019 by NoDealsHere
Source: Use your common sense! (enough is enough)
Some users don't want to learn, some other simply ignore advises.
But please follow the following guideline:


To make it short: ALWAYS USE YOUR COMMON SENSE IF POSTING!
If you don't have common sense, don't post.


More specifically:

For new threads:


a) Good, meaningful title:
The title has to say what the problem is about in best way possible.
If that title occured already, it's definitely bad. And contest names aren't good either.
That's in fact a requirement for being able to search old problems.

Examples:
Bad titles:
- "Hard"/"Medium"/"Easy" (if you find it so cool how hard/easy it is, tell it in the post and use a title that tells us the problem)
- "Number Theory" (hey guy, guess why this forum's named that way¿ and is it the only such problem on earth¿)
- "Fibonacci" (there are millions of Fibonacci problems out there, all posted and named the same...)
- "Chinese TST 2003" (does this say anything about the problem¿)
Good titles:
- "On divisors of a³+2b³+4c³-6abc"
- "Number of solutions to x²+y²=6z²"
- "Fibonacci numbers are never squares"


b) Use search function:
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Update (by Amir Hossein). The best way to search for two keywords in AoPS is to input
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so that any post containing both strings "first word" and "second form".


c) Good problem statement:
Some recent really bad post was:
[quote]$lim_{n\to 1}^{+\infty}\frac{1}{n}-lnn$[/quote]
It contains no question and no answer.
If you do this, too, you are on the best way to get your thread deleted. Write everything clearly, define where your variables come from (and define the "natural" numbers if used). Additionally read your post at least twice before submitting. After you sent it, read it again and use the Edit-Button if necessary to correct errors.


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The above rules will be applied from next monday (5. march of 2007).
Feel free to discuss on this here.
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Polynomial FE
MSTang   55
N 3 minutes ago by P162008
Source: 2016 AIME I #11
Let $P(x)$ be a nonzero polynomial such that $(x-1)P(x+1)=(x+2)P(x)$ for every real $x$, and $\left(P(2)\right)^2 = P(3)$. Then $P(\tfrac72)=\tfrac{m}{n}$, where $m$ and $n$ are relatively prime positive integers. Find $m + n$.
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MSTang
Mar 4, 2016
P162008
3 minutes ago
weights of coins
QueenArwen   1
N 43 minutes ago by mikestro
Source: 46th International Tournament of Towns, Junior A-Level P5, Spring 2025
Given $15$ coins of the same appearance. It is known that one of them weighs $1$g, two coins weigh $2$g each, three coins weigh $3$g each, four coins weigh $4$g each, and five coins weigh $5$g each. There are inscriptions on the coins, indicating their weight. It is allowed to perform two weighings on a balance without additional weights. Find a way to check that there are no wrong inscriptions.
(It is not required to check which inscriptions are wrong and which ones are correct.)
(8 marks)
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QueenArwen
Mar 24, 2025
mikestro
43 minutes ago
2-var inequality
sqing   8
N 44 minutes ago by sqing
Source: Own
Let $ a,b\geq 0    $. Prove that
$$ \frac{a }{a^2+2b^2+1}+ \frac{b }{b^2+2a^2+1}\leq \frac{1}{\sqrt{3}} $$$$   \frac{a }{2a^2+ b^2+2ab+1}+ \frac{b }{2b^2+ a^2+2ab+1}  \leq \frac{1}{\sqrt{5}} $$$$ \frac{a }{2a^2+ b^2+ ab+1}+ \frac{b }{2b^2+ a^2+ ab+1} \leq \frac{1}{2} $$$$\frac{a }{a^2+2b^2+2ab+1}+ \frac{b }{b^2+2a^2+2ab+1}\leq \frac{1}{2} $$
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sqing
Today at 1:39 AM
sqing
44 minutes ago
Solution
KTYC   0
an hour ago





(a + b)/(a + c) = (b + c)/(b + a)


Cross-multiply,

(a + b)² = (a + c)(b + c)

(a + b)² = ab + bc + ac + c²

ab + bc + ac = (a + b)² - c²

ab + bc + ac = (a + b - c)(a + b + c)
—-Eqn(1)

—————————-

Since a, b, c ∈ ℕ,

(a + b + c) ∈ ℕ

(ab + bc + ac) ∈ ℕ


From Eqn(1),

(a + b - c) ∈ ℕ

—————————-

Since (ab + bc + ac) is prime,

The only positive factors of
(ab + bc + ac) are
1 and (ab + bc + ac)


Since c ∈ ℕ,

(a + b - c) < (a + b + c)


Hence,


a + b - c = 1
—-Eqn(2)

a + b + c = ab + bc + ac
—-Eqn(3)


From Eqn(2),

a + b = c + 1
—-Eqn(4)


From Eqn(3),

a + b + c = c(a + b) + ac
—-Eqn(5)


Sub. Eqn(4) into Eqn(5):

c + 1 + c = c(c + 1) + ac

2c + 1 = c² + c + ac

c² + c + ac - 2c - 1 = 0

c² + ac - c - 1 = 0

c² + c(a - 1) - 1 = 0
—-Eqn(6)

——————————

Eqn(6) is a quadratic equation about c


Hence,

Discriminant of Eqn(6)
= (a - 1)² - 4(1)(-1)
= (a - 1)² + 4


Since c ∈ ℕ,
Discriminant of Eqn(6) is a perfect square


Hence,

[(a - 1)² + 4] is a perfect square


Let
(a - 1)² + 4 = k²
where k ∈ ℕ


Hence,

k² - (a - 1)² = 4

[k - (a - 1)][k + (a - 1)] = 4

(k - a + 1)(k + a - 1) = 4
—-Eqn(7)

——————————

Since a, k ∈ ℕ,

a ≥ 1

k ≥ 1


Hence,

(k + a - 1) ≥ (1 + 1 - 1)

(k + a - 1) ≥ 1


Hence,

(k + a - 1) ∈ ℕ


4 ∈ ℕ


Hence,

From Eqn(7),

(k - a + 1) ∈ ℕ


Hence,

4 is a factor of two positive integers in Eqn(7)

——————————

(k - a + 1) + (k + a - 1)
= 2k,
which is even


Hence,

(k - a + 1) and (k + a - 1) have the same parity


Since 4 is even,
(k - a + 1) and (k + a - 1) are even

——————————

Express 4 as a product of two even positive integers,

4 = 2 x 2


Hence,

k - a + 1 = 2
—-Eqn(8)

k + a - 1 = 2
—-Eqn(9)


From Eqn(8) and Eqn(9),

k - a + 1 = k + a - 1

-a + 1 = a - 1

-a - a = -1 - 1

-2a = -2

a = 1
—-Eqn(10)


Sub. Eqn(10) into Eqn(6):

c² + c(1 - 1) - 1 = 0

c² = 1


Hence,

c = 1 —-Eqn(11)
Or
c = -1 (rej. as c > 0)


Sub. Eqn(10) and Eqn(11) into Eqn(4):

1 + b = 1 + 1

b = 1

——————————————————

Therefore,


Ans:

(a, b, c)
= (1, 1, 1)
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KTYC
an hour ago
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old one but good one
Sunjee   0
an hour ago
If $x_1,x_2,...,x_n $ are positive numbers, then prove that
$$\frac{x_1}{1+x_1^2}+\frac{x_2}{1+x_1^2+x_2^2}+\cdots+ \frac{x_n}{1+x_1^2+\cdots+x_n^2}\geq \sqrt{n}$$
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Sunjee
an hour ago
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Insects walk
Giahuytls2326   1
N 2 hours ago by removablesingularity
Source: somewhere in the internet
A 100 × 100 chessboard is divided into unit squares. Each square has an arrow pointing up, down, left, or right. The board square is surrounded by a wall, except to the right of the top right corner square. An insect is placed in one of the squares.

Every second, the insect moves one unit in the direction of the arrow in its square. As the insect moves, the arrow of the square it just left rotates 90° clockwise.

If the specified movement cannot be performed, then the insect will not move for that second, but the arrow in the square it is standing on will still rotate. Is it possible that the insect never leaves the board?
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Giahuytls2326
May 3, 2025
removablesingularity
2 hours ago
something...
SunnyEvan   1
N 2 hours ago by SunnyEvan
Source: unknown
Try to prove : $$ \sum csc^{20} \frac{2^{i} \pi}{7} csc^{23} \frac{2^{j}\pi }{7} csc^{2023} \frac{2^{k} \pi}{7} $$is a rational number.
Where $ (i,j,k)=(1,2,3) $ and other permutations.
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SunnyEvan
Today at 1:13 AM
SunnyEvan
2 hours ago
something interesting...
SunnyEvan   1
N 2 hours ago by SunnyEvan
Source: old result
Let $x$, $y$, $z$ be non-negative real numbers, no two of which are zero. Such that $ x+y+z=3.$ Prove that :
$$ \sum \frac{16(9-xyz)}{9(z+x)^2(y+3)^2} \geq \frac{2xyz}{\sum x^2} + \frac{\sum (z^2-x^2)(z^2-y^2)(z+x)(z+y)}{\sum(x+y)^3(y+z)^3} $$
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SunnyEvan
3 hours ago
SunnyEvan
2 hours ago
we can find one pair of a boy and a girl
orl   17
N 2 hours ago by raghu7
Source: Vietnam TST 2001 for the 42th IMO, problem 3
Some club has 42 members. It’s known that among 31 arbitrary club members, we can find one pair of a boy and a girl that they know each other. Show that from club members we can choose 12 pairs of knowing each other boys and girls.
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orl
Jun 26, 2005
raghu7
2 hours ago
IMO Genre Predictions
ohiorizzler1434   37
N 2 hours ago by flower417477
Everybody, with IMO upcoming, what are you predictions for the problem genres?


Personally I predict: predict
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ohiorizzler1434
May 3, 2025
flower417477
2 hours ago
Inequality
lgx57   6
N 2 hours ago by MihaiT
Source: Own
$a,b,c>0,ab+bc+ca=1$. Prove that

$$\sum \sqrt{8ab+1} \ge 5$$
(I don't know whether the equality holds)
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2 hours ago
purple comet discussion
ConfidentKoala4   59
N 2 hours ago by hzbrl
when can we discuss purple comet
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USAJMO problem 3: Inequality
BOGTRO   104
N Today at 4:00 AM by justaguy_69
Let $a,b,c$ be positive real numbers. Prove that $\frac{a^3+3b^3}{5a+b}+\frac{b^3+3c^3}{5b+c}+\frac{c^3+3a^3}{5c+a} \geq \frac{2}{3}(a^2+b^2+c^2)$.
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2025 Math and AI 4 Girls Competition: Win Up To $1,000!!!
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N Today at 3:51 AM by RainbowSquirrel53B
Join the 2025 Math and AI 4 Girls Competition for a chance to win up to $1,000!

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Complex numbers in geometry
v_Enhance   34
N Apr 28, 2025 by ESAOPS
Source: 2012 AIME I Problem 14
Complex numbers $a$, $b$ and $c$ are the zeros of a polynomial $P(z) = z^3+qz+r$, and $|a|^2+|b|^2+|c|^2=250$. The points corresponding to $a$, $b$, and $c$ in the complex plane are the vertices of a right triangle with hypotenuse $h$. Find $h^2$.
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Apr 28, 2025
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Complex numbers $a$, $b$ and $c$ are the zeros of a polynomial $P(z) = z^3+qz+r$, and $|a|^2+|b|^2+|c|^2=250$. The points corresponding to $a$, $b$, and $c$ in the complex plane are the vertices of a right triangle with hypotenuse $h$. Find $h^2$.
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Are you sure you can assume that 2 of the roots are $a+bi$ and $a-bi$? The problem doesn't say that the polynomial has real coefficients.
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program4 wrote:
Are you sure you can assume that 2 of the roots are $a+bi$ and $a-bi$? The problem doesn't say that the polynomial has real coefficients.

oh, i kinda assumed that i guess, but it worked.
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Best way is to assume that all roots are real, as a few roots are above.
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Kinda glad that I didn't take AIME 1 this year :P I would have been trolled Butch and Sundance....

No Bash Solution with Motivation it's kinda contrived but not really
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Solution
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Pretty Elegant when you realize the insane freedom in the problem
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umm this is easy
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simple solution
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complex
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jj_ca888
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This is a geo problem. The complex conditions translate to:

We have a parallelogram $WXYZ$ with $WX = a, WY = c, WZ = b$. Let $Y'$ be the reflection of $Y$ over $W$, and we are given $\angle Y'XZ = 90^{\circ}$ and $a^2 + b^2 + c^2 = 250$. Find $Y'Z^2$.

Rewrite $WY = 2r$ and $XZ = 2s$, the diagonals. By Parallelogram Law,\[a^2 + b^2 = 2(r^2 + s^2) \implies a^2 + b^2 + c^2 = 6r^2 + 2s^2 = 250.\]Lastly, by perpendicularity, $Y'X^2 + s^2 = 9r^2$, thus\[Y'Z^2 = Y'X^2 + 4s^2 = 9r^2 + 3s^2 = 250 \cdot \frac32 = 375\]as desired.
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Yeah this is definitely a geo problem. I had a different solution though.

It is well-known that $\frac{a + b + c}{3}$ is the complex number for the centroid of a triangle with vertices as the complex numbers $a, b,$ and $c$. In this problem, it is given that the sum of the roots is $0$, so the centroid is at $0$.

Now, if we think about the meaning of the statement $|a|^2+|b|^2+|c|^2=250$, it is actually just the sum of the squares of the distances from the centroid to each vertex of the triangle.

Using the fact that the centroid divides the medians in a ratio of $2:1$, we see that $p^2 + q^2 + r^2 = \frac{9}{4} \cdot 250$, where $p, q,$ and $r$ are the lengths of the medians of the triangle.

Let $x$ and $y$ be the legs of the right triangles. We can find the squares of the lengths of each median in terms of these legs. Then substituting, we get that
$$(x^2 + \frac{y^2}{4}) + (y^2 + \frac{x^2}{4}) + (\frac{x^2}{4} + \frac{y^2}{4}) = \frac{9}{4} \cdot 250$$$$\Rightarrow \frac{3}{2} \cdot (x^2 + y^2) = \frac{9}{4} \cdot 250$$$$\Rightarrow x^2 + y^2 = 375$$so the square of the hypotenuse is $375$.

Pretty nice problem.

EDIT: I just realized that this solution was already posted earlier in the thread. Oops.
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Awesome3.14 wrote:
I am bad at complex numbers

Thanks for bumping the thread with something that contributes to it greatly :thumbup:
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Let the three roots be $c+0i$, $a+bi$, and $a-bi$ for reals $a,b,c$. These three roots form an isosceles triangle because \[|c - (a+bi)|=|c-(a-bi)|\].
We are additionally given that the triangle is a right triangle, thus the roots form an isosceles right triangle with the tip at $c$.

Thus, the roots are going to be at $(-2x,0),(x,3x),(x,-3x)$ since they must also sum to 0.

The sum of squares condition becomes \[250 = |a|^2+|b|^2+|c|^2 = 4x^2+10x^2+10x^2=24x^2\]
Then, note that \[h^2 = (3x-(-3x))^2 = 36x^2 = 250 \cdot \frac{3}{2} = 375\]
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Note that because of the symmetry of the problem, any vertex can be the right angle vertex. Thus, let $a$ be the vertex that has a right angle on it.

First, we note that
\[a+b=c = 0\]
We see that
\[|a|^2+|b|^2+|c|^2 = 250 \implies |b+c|^2+|b|^2+|c^2| = 250\]
We let $b = b_{1}+b_{2}i$ and $c = c_{1}+c_{2}i$. Then, we write the equation as

\[b_{1}^2+2b_{1}c_{1}+c_{1}^2+b_{2}^2+2b_{2}c_{2}+c_{2}^2+b_{1}^2+b_{2}^2+c_{1}^2+c_{2}^2 = 250\]\[b_{1}^2+b_{1}c_{1}+c_{1}^2+b_{2}^2+b_{2}c_{2}+c_{2}^2 = 125\]
Also note that

\begin{align*}
|b-c|^2 &= |b-a|^2+|a-c|^2 \\
&= |b-(-b-c)|^2+|-b-c-c|^2 \\
&= 5b_{1}^2+8b_{1}c_{1}+5c_{1}^2+5b_{2}^2+8b_{2}c_{2}+5c_{2}^2 \\
&= 625+3b_{1}c_{1}+3b_{2}c_{2} \\
b_{1}^2-2b_{1}c_{1}+c_{1}^2+b_{2}^2-2b_{2}c_{2}+c_{2}^2 &= \\
125-3b_{1}c_{1}-3b_{2}c_{2} &=
\end{align*}
From this, we get that $3b_{1}c_{1}+3b_{2}c_{2} = -250$. Note that $|b-c|^2 = 125-3b_{1}c_{1}-3b_{2}c_{2}$. Thus, our answer is $125-(-250) = \boxed{375}.$
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Guys, stop doing algebra, geometry exists.

Let one of the roots be $2x$. Because the three roots sum to zero, the real part of the two other roots, which are conjugates of each other, is $-x$, while their imaginary parts are $3x$ as the three points form an isosceles right triangle in the complex plane. This means that $$250=|a|^2+|b|^2+|c|^2=4x^2+10x^2+10x^2 \iff x^2 = \frac{125}{12}.$$Thus $h = 6\sqrt{\frac{125}{12}} = 5\sqrt{15}$ and $h^2 = \boxed{375}$.
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solution
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Let the right angle be at $b$. Note that by Vieta, $\tfrac13(a+b+c)=0$, so the centroid of the triangle lies at $0$. Then, let the distance from $a$ to $b$ be $2x$ and the distance from $b$ to $c$ be $2y$. By properties of the centroid and the Pythagorean Theorem, we see that \[|a|^2=\tfrac49((2x)^2+y^2)\]\[|c|^2=\tfrac49(x^2+(2y)^2).\]But from the fact that the length of median from the right angle in a right triangle is equal to half the length of the hypotenuse, we also have \[|b|^2=\tfrac19((2x)^2+(2y)^2).\]Plugging these into the given equation and simplifying, we get \[\tfrac83(x^2+y^2)=250 \Rightarrow x^2+y^2=\tfrac{375}4.\]The length of our hypotenuse is given by $\sqrt{(2x)^2+(2y)^2}=\sqrt{375}$, so the final answer is $\boxed{375}$.
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clean synthetic sol
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Let one of the roots be $x$. Since the sum of the roots is zero, the real parts of the other roots is $-\frac{x}{2}$. Then, the imaginary part is $\pm \frac{3x}{2}$ because they form a right triangle. Hence,

\[|a|^2+|b|^2+|c|^2=x^2+ \frac{5x^2}{2}+\frac{5x^2}{2} = 250\]\[\implies x = \sqrt{\frac{125}{3}}.\]
The hypotenuse is thus $3x = \sqrt{375} \implies \boxed{375}$.
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mostly algebra:

By Vieta's, $a+b+c=0$, so $a=-b-c$. WLOG, let the right angle of the triangle be at $a$. We wish to compute $|b-c|^2=|b|^2+|c|^2-(\overline{b}c+\overline{c}b)$. From the given condition, we have $|b+c|^2+|b|^2+|c|^2=250\implies 2(|b|^2+|c|^2) + (\overline{b}c+\overline{c}b)=250$. The right angle condition tells us that $\left|\frac{b-c}{2}
\right|= \left|\frac{3(b+c)}{2}\right|\implies |b-c|^2=9|b+c|^2$. In a similar fashion as before, we can extract the equation $\overline cb + \overline bc=-\frac 45(|b|^2+|c|^2)$. Now, we solve $|b|^2+|c|^2=\frac{625}3$ and $\overline bc+\overline cb=-\frac{500}3$, so $|b-c|^2=\frac{1125}{3}=375\implies \boxed{h=5\sqrt {15}}$.
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The condition is we have a right triangle in the complex plane with the centroid at $0$, and the sum of the squares of the distances from the centroid are $250$. From median length formula we have in a right triangle with sidelengths $a$, $b$, $c$,
\begin{align*}
\sum_{cyc} \frac{2a^2 + 2b^2 - c^2}{4} &= 250 \cdot \frac{9}{4}\\
\frac{3}{4}(a^2 + b^2 + c^2) &= 250  \cdot \frac{9}{4}\\
\frac{3}{2}(c^2) &= 250 \cdot \frac{9}{4}\\
c^2 &= 375.
\end{align*}
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sol
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