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k a May Highlights and 2025 AoPS Online Class Information
jlacosta   0
May 1, 2025
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k i A Letter to MSM
Arr0w   23
N Sep 19, 2022 by scannose
Greetings.

I have seen many posts talking about commonly asked questions, such as finding the value of $0^0$, $\frac{1}{0}$,$\frac{0}{0}$, $\frac{\infty}{\infty}$, why $0.999...=1$ or even expressions of those terms combined as if that would make them defined. I have made this post to answer these questions once and for all, and I politely ask everyone to link this post to threads that are talking about this issue.
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[*]Firstly, the case of $0^0$. It is usually regarded that $0^0=1$, not because this works numerically but because it is convenient to define it this way. You will see the convenience of defining other undefined things later on in this post.

[*]What about $\frac{\infty}{\infty}$? The issue here is that $\infty$ isn't even rigorously defined in this expression. What exactly do we mean by $\infty$? Unless the example in question is put in context in a formal manner, then we say that $\frac{\infty}{\infty}$ is meaningless.

[*]What about $\frac{1}{0}$? Suppose that $x=\frac{1}{0}$. Then we would have $x\cdot 0=0=1$, absurd. A more rigorous treatment of the idea is that $\lim_{x\to0}\frac{1}{x}$ does not exist in the first place, although you will see why in a calculus course. So the point is that $\frac{1}{0}$ is undefined.

[*]What about if $0.99999...=1$? An article from brilliant has a good explanation. Alternatively, you can just use a geometric series. Notice that
\begin{align*}
\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{9}{10^n}&=9\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{10^n}=9\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\biggr(\frac{1}{10}\biggr)^n=9\biggr(\frac{\frac{1}{10}}{1-\frac{1}{10}}\biggr)=9\biggr(\frac{\frac{1}{10}}{\frac{9}{10}}\biggr)=9\biggr(\frac{1}{9}\biggr)=\boxed{1}
\end{align*}
[*]What about $\frac{0}{0}$? Usually this is considered to be an indeterminate form, but I would also wager that this is also undefined.
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Hopefully all of these issues and their corollaries are finally put to rest. Cheers.

2nd EDIT (6/14/22): Since I originally posted this, it has since blown up so I will try to add additional information per the request of users in the thread below.

INDETERMINATE VS UNDEFINED

What makes something indeterminate? As you can see above, there are many things that are indeterminate. While definitions might vary slightly, it is the consensus that the following definition holds: A mathematical expression is be said to be indeterminate if it is not definitively or precisely determined. So how does this make, say, something like $0/0$ indeterminate? In analysis (the theory behind calculus and beyond), limits involving an algebraic combination of functions in an independent variable may often be evaluated by replacing these functions by their limits. However, if the expression obtained after this substitution does not provide sufficient information to determine the original limit, then the expression is called an indeterminate form. For example, we could say that $0/0$ is an indeterminate form.

But we need to more specific, this is still ambiguous. An indeterminate form is a mathematical expression involving at most two of $0$, $1$ or $\infty$, obtained by applying the algebraic limit theorem (a theorem in analysis, look this up for details) in the process of attempting to determine a limit, which fails to restrict that limit to one specific value or infinity, and thus does not determine the limit being calculated. This is why it is called indeterminate. Some examples of indeterminate forms are
\[0/0, \infty/\infty, \infty-\infty, \infty \times 0\]etc etc. So what makes something undefined? In the broader scope, something being undefined refers to an expression which is not assigned an interpretation or a value. A function is said to be undefined for points outside its domain. For example, the function $f:\mathbb{R}^{+}\cup\{0\}\rightarrow\mathbb{R}$ given by the mapping $x\mapsto \sqrt{x}$ is undefined for $x<0$. On the other hand, $1/0$ is undefined because dividing by $0$ is not defined in arithmetic by definition. In other words, something is undefined when it is not defined in some mathematical context.

WHEN THE WATERS GET MUDDIED

So with this notion of indeterminate and undefined, things get convoluted. First of all, just because something is indeterminate does not mean it is not undefined. For example $0/0$ is considered both indeterminate and undefined (but in the context of a limit then it is considered in indeterminate form). Additionally, this notion of something being undefined also means that we can define it in some way. To rephrase, this means that technically, we can make something that is undefined to something that is defined as long as we define it. I'll show you what I mean.

One example of making something undefined into something defined is the extended real number line, which we define as
\[\overline{\mathbb{R}}=\mathbb{R}\cup \{-\infty,+\infty\}.\]So instead of treating infinity as an idea, we define infinity (positively and negatively, mind you) as actual numbers in the reals. The advantage of doing this is for two reasons. The first is because we can turn this thing into a totally ordered set. Specifically, we can let $-\infty\le a\le \infty$ for each $a\in\overline{\mathbb{R}}$ which means that via this order topology each subset has an infimum and supremum and $\overline{\mathbb{R}}$ is therefore compact. While this is nice from an analytic standpoint, extending the reals in this way can allow for interesting arithmetic! In $\overline{\mathbb{R}}$ it is perfectly OK to say that,
\begin{align*}
a + \infty = \infty + a & = \infty, & a & \neq -\infty \\
a - \infty = -\infty + a & = -\infty, & a & \neq \infty \\
a \cdot (\pm\infty) = \pm\infty \cdot a & = \pm\infty, & a & \in (0, +\infty] \\
a \cdot (\pm\infty) = \pm\infty \cdot a & = \mp\infty, & a & \in [-\infty, 0) \\
\frac{a}{\pm\infty} & = 0, & a & \in \mathbb{R} \\
\frac{\pm\infty}{a} & = \pm\infty, & a & \in (0, +\infty) \\
\frac{\pm\infty}{a} & = \mp\infty, & a & \in (-\infty, 0).
\end{align*}So addition, multiplication, and division are all defined nicely. However, notice that we have some indeterminate forms here which are also undefined,
\[\infty-\infty,\frac{\pm\infty}{\pm\infty},\frac{\pm\infty}{0},0\cdot \pm\infty.\]So while we define certain things, we also left others undefined/indeterminate in the process! However, in the context of measure theory it is common to define $\infty \times 0=0$ as greenturtle3141 noted below. I encourage to reread what he wrote, it's great stuff! As you may notice, though, dividing by $0$ is undefined still! Is there a place where it isn't? Kind of. To do this, we can extend the complex numbers! More formally, we can define this extension as
\[\mathbb{C}^*=\mathbb{C}\cup\{\tilde{\infty}\}\]which we call the Riemann Sphere (it actually forms a sphere, pretty cool right?). As a note, $\tilde{\infty}$ means complex infinity, since we are in the complex plane now. Here's the catch: division by $0$ is allowed here! In fact, we have
\[\frac{z}{0}=\tilde{\infty},\frac{z}{\tilde{\infty}}=0.\]where $\tilde{\infty}/\tilde{\infty}$ and $0/0$ are left undefined. We also have
\begin{align*}
z+\tilde{\infty}=\tilde{\infty}, \forall z\ne -\infty\\
z\times \tilde{\infty}=\tilde{\infty}, \forall z\ne 0
\end{align*}Furthermore, we actually have some nice properties with multiplication that we didn't have before. In $\mathbb{C}^*$ it holds that
\[\tilde{\infty}\times \tilde{\infty}=\tilde{\infty}\]but $\tilde{\infty}-\tilde{\infty}$ and $0\times \tilde{\infty}$ are left as undefined (unless there is an explicit need to change that somehow). One could define the projectively extended reals as we did with $\mathbb{C}^*$, by defining them as
\[{\widehat {\mathbb {R} }}=\mathbb {R} \cup \{\infty \}.\]They behave in a similar way to the Riemann Sphere, with division by $0$ also being allowed with the same indeterminate forms (in addition to some other ones).
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k i Marathon Threads
LauraZed   0
Jul 2, 2019
Due to excessive spam and inappropriate posts, we have locked the Prealgebra and Beginning Algebra threads.

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k i Basic Forum Rules and Info (Read before posting)
jellymoop   368
N May 16, 2018 by harry1234
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Plane_geometry_youtuber   7
N 5 minutes ago by Phat_23000245
Hi,

Due to the search handle issue in youtube. My channel is renamed to Olympiad Geometry Club. And the new link is as following:

https://www.youtube.com/@OlympiadGeometryClub

Recently I introduced the concept of harmonic bundle. I will move on to the conjugate median soon. In the future, I will discuss more than a thousand theorems on plane geometry and hopefully it can help to the students preparing for the Olympiad competition.

Please share this to the people may need it.

Thank you!
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Problem 10
SlovEcience   5
N 6 minutes ago by Phat_23000245
Let \( x, y, z \) be positive real numbers satisfying
\[ xy + yz + zx = 3xyz. \]Prove that
\[
\sqrt{\frac{x}{3y^2z^2 + xyz}} + \sqrt{\frac{y}{3x^2z^2 + xyz}} + \sqrt{\frac{z}{3x^2y^2 + xyz}} \le \frac{3}{2}.
\]
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Tempting Locus
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N 10 minutes ago by drago.7437
Let $\triangle ABC$ be an acute triangle. Let $D$ be any point on the side $BC$. On line $AD$, choose any point $P$. Let $X$ and $Z$ be the tangents from $P$ to the circumcircle of $\triangle ABD$, and let $Y$ and $W$ be the tangents from $P$ to the circumcircle of $\triangle ACD$. Find the locus of the intersection of $XY$ and $WZ$.
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Iran(Second Round) 2015,second day,problem 4
MRF2017   8
N 21 minutes ago by Autistic_Turk
Source: Iran(Second Round) 2015,second day,problem 4
In quadrilateral $ABCD$ , $AC$ is bisector of $\hat{A}$ and $\widehat{ADC}=\widehat{ACB}$. $X$ and $Y$ are feet of perpendicular from $A$ to $BC$ and $CD$,respectively.Prove that orthocenter of triangle $AXY$ is on $BD$.
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Worst Sillies of All Time
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N Today at 3:39 AM by idk12345678
Share the worst sillies you have ever made!

Mine was probably on the 2024 MathCounts State Target Round Problem 8, where I wrote my answer as a fraction instead of a percent, which cost me a trip to Nationals that year.
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A7456321   22
N Today at 3:22 AM by elizhang101412
Me personally I only have $\sqrt2=1.414$ memorized but I'm sure there are people out there with more!
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prime numbers
wpdnjs   130
N Today at 1:57 AM by ayeshaaq
does anyone know how to quickly identify prime numbers?

thanks.
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1434th post
vincentwant   22
N Today at 1:41 AM by vincentwant
This is my 1434th post. Here are some of my favorite (non-1434-related) problems that I wrote for various contests over the past few years. A $\star$ indicates my favorites.

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A function $f(x)$ is defined over the positive integers as follows: $f(1)=0$, $f(p^n)=n$ for $p$ prime, and for all relatively prime positive integers $a$ and $b$, $f(ab)=f(a)f(b)+f(a)+f(b)$. If $N$ is the smallest positive integer such that $f(N)=20$, find the units digit of $N$.

$\textbf{(A)} ~0 \qquad\textbf{(B)} ~2 \qquad\textbf{(C)} ~4 \qquad\textbf{(D)} ~6 \qquad\textbf{(E)} ~8$

(2023 VMAMC 10 #23)

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$\star$ If convex quadrilateral $ABCD$ satisfies $AB=6$, $\angle CAB=30^{\circ}$, $\angle CDB=60^{\circ}$, $\angle BCD-\angle ABC=30^{\circ}$, and $CD=1$, what is the value of $BC^2$? Express your answer in simplest radical form.

(2024 STNUOCHTAM Sprint #30)

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Let $N=1!\cdot2!\cdot4!\cdot8!\cdots(2^{1000})!$ and $d$ be the greatest odd divisor of $N$. Let $f(n)$ for even $n$ denote the product of every odd positive integer less than $n$. If $d=f(a_1)^{b_1}f(a_2)^{b_2}f(a_3)^{b_3}\cdots f(a_k)^{b_k}$ for positive integers $a_1,a_2,\dots,a_k$ and $b_1,b_2,\dots,b_k$ where $k$ is minimized, find the number of divisors of $a_1a_2a_3\cdots a_k{}$.

(2024 STNUOCHTAM Sprint #29)

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$\star$ There exists exactly one positive real number $k$ such that the graph of the equation $\frac{x^3+y^3}{xy-k}=k$ consists of a line and a point not on the line. The distance from the point to the line can be expressed as $\frac{a}{\sqrt{b}}$, where $a$ and $b$ are positive integers and $b$ is not divisible by any square greater than $1$. Find $a+b$.

(2023-2024 WOOT AIME 3 #12)

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Let $a\odot b=\frac{4ab}{a+b+2\sqrt{ab}}$. If $x,y,z,k$ are positive real numbers such that $x\odot y=4z$, $x\odot z=\frac{9}{4}y$, and $y\odot z=kx$, find $k$. Express your answer as a common fraction.

(2024 STNUOCHTAM Sprint #26)

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$\star$ Let $ABCDE$ be a convex pentagon satisfying $AB = BC = CD = DE$, $\angle ABC = \angle CDE$, $\angle EAB = \angle AED = \frac{1}{2}\angle BCD$. Let $X$ be the intersection of lines $AB$ and $CD$. If $\triangle BCX$ has a perimeter of $18$ and an area of $11$, find the area of $ABCDE$.

$\textbf{(A)} ~136 \qquad\textbf{(B)} ~137 \qquad\textbf{(C)} ~138 \qquad\textbf{(D)} ~139 \qquad\textbf{(E)} ~140$

(2024 TMC AMC 10 #25)

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$\star$ Let $\triangle{ABC}$ be an acute scalene triangle with longest side $AC$. Let $O$ be the circumcenter of $\triangle{ABC}$. Points $X$ and $Y$ are chosen on $AC$ such that $OX\perp BC$ and $OY\perp AB$. If $AX=7$, $XY=8$, and $YC=9$, the area of the circumcircle of $\triangle{ABC}$ can be expressed as $k\pi$. Find $k$.

$\textbf{(A)} ~145\qquad \textbf{(B)} ~148\qquad \textbf{(C)} ~153\qquad \textbf{(D)} ~157\qquad \textbf{(E)} ~162\qquad$

(2024 XCMC 10 #23)

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Find the sum of the digits of the unique prime number $p\geq 31$ such that $$\binom{p^2-1}{846}+\binom{p^2-2}{846}$$is divisible by $p$.

$\textbf{(A)} ~7\qquad \textbf{(B)} ~8\qquad \textbf{(C)} ~10\qquad \textbf{(D)} ~11\qquad \textbf{(E)} ~13\qquad$

(2024 XCMC 10 #24)

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$\star$ Alex has a $4$ by $4$ grid of squares. Let $N$ be the number of ways that Alex can fill out each square with one of the letters $A$, $B$, $C$, or $D$ such that in every row and column, the number of $A$'s and $B$'s are the same, and the number of $C$'s and $D$'s are the same. (For example, a row with squares labeled $BDAC$ or $DCCD$ is valid, while a row with squares labeled $ACDA$ or $CBCB$ is not valid.) Find the remainder when $N$ is divided by $7$.

$\textbf{(A)} ~0\qquad \textbf{(B)} ~1\qquad \textbf{(C)} ~3\qquad \textbf{(D)} ~4\qquad \textbf{(E)} ~6\qquad$

(2024 XCMC 10 #25)

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How many ways are there to divide a $4$ by $4$ grid of squares along the gridlines into two or more pieces such that if three pieces meet at a point $P$, then there are actually four pieces with a vertex at $P$? An example is shown below.

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(2025 ELMOCOUNTS CDR #19)

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How many ways are there to label each cell of a 4-by-4 grid of squares with either 1, 2, 3, or 4 such that no two adjacent cells have the same label and no two adjacent cells have labels that sum to 5?

(2025 ELMOCOUNTS Sprint #20)

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Let $a,b,c,d,e,f$ be real numbers satisfying the system of equations
$$\begin{cases}
a+b+c+d+e+f=1 \\
a+2b+3c+4d+5e+6f=2 \\
a+3b+6c+10d+15e+21f=4 \\
a+4b+10c+20d+35e+56f=8 \\
a+5b+15c+35d+70e+126f=16 \\
a+6b+21c+56d+126e+252f=32. \\
\end{cases}$$What is the value of $a+3b+9c+27d+81e+243f$?

(2025 ELMOCOUNTS Sprint #26)

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There are seven students at a camp. There are seven classes available and each student chooses some of the classes to take. Every student must choose at least two classes. How many ways are there for the students to choose the classes such that each pair of classes has exactly one student in common?

(2025 ELMOCOUNTS Team #8)

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$\star$ In $\triangle{ABC}$, the incircle is tangent to $\overline{BC}$ at $D$, and $E$ is the reflection of $D$ across the midpoint of $\overline{BC}$. Suppose that the inradii of $\triangle ABE$ and $\triangle ACE$ are $4$ and $11$ respectively, and the distance between their incenters is $25$. What is the inradius of $\triangle{ABC}$? Express your answer as a common fraction.

(2025 ELMOCOUNTS Team #10)

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Let $n$ be a positive integer and let $S$ be the set of all $n$-tuples of $0$'s and $1$'s. Two elements of $S$ are said to be neighboring if and only if they differ in only one coordinate. Bob colors the elements of $S$ red and blue such that each blue $n$-tuple is neighboring to exactly two red $n$-tuples and no two red $n$-tuples neighbor each other. If $n>100$, find the least possible value of $n$.

(2025 ELMOCOUNTS Target #6)
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May 25, 2025
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9 Prodigy AoPS or Khanacadamy
ZMB038   105
N Yesterday at 10:07 PM by JohannIsBach
Hey everyone just was wondering what everybody prefers? Try not to fight so this doesn't get locked!
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Find all functions $f:\mathbb{R^+}\rightarrow\mathbb{R^+}$ such that
$$\frac{x+f(y)}{xf(y)}=f(\frac{1}{y}+f(\frac{1}{x}))$$for all positive real numbers $x$ and $y$.
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Find all functions $f:\mathbb{R^+}\rightarrow\mathbb{R^+}$ such that
$$\frac{x+f(y)}{xf(y)}=f(\frac{1}{y}+f(\frac{1}{x}))$$for all positive real numbers $x$ and $y$.
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Setting $x\mapsto \frac1x$ in the given equation gives $$f\left(f(x)+\frac1y\right)=x+\frac1{f(y)}.$$Call this statement $P(x,y)$. This immediately gives $f$ is injective.

Now comparing $P(x,\tfrac1{f(y)})$ and $P(y,\tfrac1{f(x)})$ gives $$\frac{1}{f\left(\frac1{f(x)}\right)}-\frac{1}{f\left(\frac1{f(y)}\right)}=x-y\implies \frac{1}{f\left(\frac1{f(x)}\right)}=x+k\implies f\left(\frac1{f(x)}\right)=\frac1{x+k}.$$Here $k$ is some constant. Also, comparing $P(\tfrac1{f(x)},y)$ and $P(\tfrac1{f(y)},x)$ and using injectivity, we have $$f\left(f\left(\frac1{f(x)}\right)+\frac1y\right)=f\left(f\left(\frac1{f(y)}\right)+\frac1x\right)\implies f\left(\frac1{f(x)}\right)+\frac1y=f\left(\frac1{f(y)}\right)+\frac1x\implies f\left(\frac1{f(x)}\right)=\frac1x+k'.$$Here $k'$ is another constant. Now this gives $\tfrac1{x+k}=\tfrac1x+k'$ holds for all $x\in\mathbb R^+$, which forces $k=k'=0$. So in fact $f\left(\frac{1}{f(x)}\right)=\frac1x.$ Now $P(\tfrac{1}{f(x)})$ gives $$f\left(\frac1x+\frac1y\right)=\frac1{f(x)}+\frac1{f(y)}.$$Call this new statement $Q(x,y)$.
Now $Q(x,x)$ gives $f(\tfrac2x)=\tfrac2{f(x)}\;(\star).$ Comparing $Q(\tfrac{xy}{x+y},1)$ and $Q(x,\tfrac{y}{y+1})$ and mutilplying y $2$ gives $$\frac2{f(1)}+\frac{2}{f\left(\frac{xy}{x+y}\right)}=\frac{2}{f\left(\frac y{y+1}\right)}+\frac2{f(x)}.$$Using $(\star)$ in each of these terms, we have $f(2)+f\left(\tfrac2x+\tfrac2y\right)=f\left(2+\tfrac{2}{y}\right)+f\left(\tfrac2x\right)$, and replacing $x\mapsto 2x,y\mapsto 2y$, we get $$f(2)+f\left(\frac1x+\frac1y\right)=f\left(2+\frac{1}{y}\right)+f\left(\frac1x\right).$$Now we use the statements $Q(x,y),Q(\tfrac12,y)$ to simplify that into $$f(2)+\frac1{f(x)}+\frac{1}{f(y)}=\frac1{f(\tfrac12)}+\frac1{f(y)}+f\left(\frac1x\right)\implies f\left(\frac1x\right)-\frac1{f(x)}=f(2)-\frac1{f(\tfrac12)}.$$Setting $x=2$, there, we get $f(\tfrac12)+\tfrac1{f(1/2)}=f(2)+\frac1{f(2)}$, and since $f(2)\ne f(1/2)$ because of injectivity, we get $f(2)=\frac1{f(1/2)}$, which in turn implies $f\left(\frac1x\right)=\frac1{f(x)}.$

Now $Q(x,y)$ can be written as $f(\tfrac1x+\tfrac1y)=f(\tfrac1x)+f(\tfrac1y)$, which becomes Cauchy's equation after setting $x\mapsto 1/x,y\mapsto 1/y$. Since the codomain of $f$ is bounded from below, we must have $f(x)=cx$, and only $f(x)=x$ fits.

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We can rewrite it as:
$$\frac{1}{x}+\frac{1}{f(y)}=f(\frac{1}{y}+f(\frac{1}{x})).$$It is clear that we can replace $x$ by $\frac{1}{x}$ and get:
$$x+\frac{1}{y}=f(\frac{1}{y}+f(x)).$$Suppose that $x_1>f(x_1)$ for some $x_1.$ Then $(x,y)=(x_1,\frac{1}{x_1-f(x_1)})$ gives us $$x_1=f(x_1)-\frac{1}{f(y)}<f(x_1),$$contradiction. So $\boxed{x \le f(x) \hspace{2mm} \forall x}.$ But this means that
$$x+\frac{1}{f(y)}=f(\frac{1}{y}+f(x))\ge \frac{1}{y}+f(x)\ge \frac{1}{y}+x \Longrightarrow$$$$\frac{1}{f(y)}\ge \frac{1}{y}\Longrightarrow \boxed{y\ge f(y) \hspace{2mm} \forall y}.$$Combining the two boxed results gives us $f(x)=x.$
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Amin12 wrote:
Find all functions $f:\mathbb{R^+}\rightarrow\mathbb{R^+}$ such that
$$\frac{x+f(y)}{xf(y)}=f\left(\frac{1}{y}+f\left(\frac{1}{x}\right)\right)$$for all positive real numbers $x$ and $y$.

Equivalently, $$\frac{1}{x}+\frac{1}{f(y)}=f\left(\frac{1}{y}+f\left(\frac{1}{x}\right)\right)$$for all $x,y>0$. Put $t=\tfrac{1}{x}$ thus $t+\tfrac{1}{f(y)}=f\left(f(t)+\tfrac{1}{y}\right)$ for all $t,y>0$. Observe that as $t \rightarrow \infty$ we see $\mathbb{R}(f)$ has no upper bound. Thus, for any $\varepsilon>0$ it is possible to pick $y$ with $\tfrac{1}{f(y)}<\varepsilon$; hence $ \cup [\tfrac{1}{f(y)}, \infty)$ is a subset of $\mathbb{R}(f)$, consequently $f$ is surjective over $\mathbb{R}^{+}$. If $f(a)=f(b)$ then plugging $t=a$ and $t=b$ subsequently, we conclude $a=b$ or $f$ is injective. Thus, $f$ is a bijection on positive reals.

Now substitute $y=\tfrac{1}{f(z)}$ yielding $$f(f(t)+f(z))=t+\frac{1}{f\left(\frac{1}{f(z)}\right)}$$for all $t,z>0$. Swapping $t,z$ fixes the LHS, hence $\frac{1}{f\left(\frac{1}{f(z)}\right)}=z+C$ for some constant $C$ and all $z>0$. Hence $f(f(t)+f(z))=t+z+C$ for all $t,z>0$. Playing the Devil's trick again, we put $x=f(z)$ in the original equation; so $$\frac{1}{f(z)}+\frac{1}{f(y)}=f\left(\frac{1}{y}+\frac{1}{z+C}\right)$$and swap $y,z$; injectivity of $f$ then yields that $y \mapsto \frac{1}{y}-\frac{1}{y+C}$ is a constant function. Thus, $C=0$ and so $f(f(y)+f(z))=y+z$ for all $y,z>0$. Now plug $x \mapsto f\left(\frac{1}{x}\right)$ in $f\left(\frac{1}{f(x)}\right)=\frac{1}{x}$ to conclude that $f\left(\frac{1}{x}\right)=\frac{1}{f(x)}$ for all $x>0$. Now we immediately get $f(f(x))=x$ for all $x>0$ and so $f(a+b)=f(a)+f(b)$ (putting $a=f(y), b=f(z)$); hence $f$ is additive too. Now $f$ is strictly increasing so if $f(x_0)>x_0$ then $x_0=f(f(x_0)>x_0$ and vice-versa. Thus, $f(x_0)=x_0$ for all $x_0>0$ and $f$ is the identity function. It also works. $\blacksquare$
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Fix $y$ to note that $f$ is injective and $(\frac{1}{f(y)},\infty) \subseteq f$. Now take $y$ with $f(y) \to \infty$ gives $(0,\infty)  = f$. Therefore $f$ is bijective.
Now note that
$$f(x+\frac{1}{f(y)} + \frac1z) =  f(f(f(x) + 1/y ) + 1/z) = f(x) + 1/y + 1/f(z)$$Replace $z$ by $1/z$ in the above relation and consider symmetric equation with $x,z$ swapped we deduce
$$f(x) = 1/f(1/x) + \underbrace{f(z) - 1/f(1/z)}_c$$Fix $z$ and vary $x$ to get using $f$ bijective that $(c,\infty) = f$ so $c = 0$, i.e. $f(z) = \frac 1 {f(1/z)}$.
Now we rewrite original FE as
$$f(f(x) + y) = x + f(y).$$Replace $x$ by $f(x)$ to get
$$f(f^2(x) + y)  = f(x) + f(y) = f(y) + f(x) = f(f^2(y) + f(x)). \qquad\qquad  \dots \dots (1)$$Now use injectivity to get
$f^2(x) = \underbrace{f^2(y) - y}_{c'} + x$. Taking a similar consideration as before with $c$ we see that $c' = 0$. Therefore $f(x)^2 = x$, so $(1)$ becomes Cauchy FE. Extend $f(x)$ by $f(-x)  = -f(x)$ for all $x < 0$ and note that extended $f$ satisfies Cauchy on the reals, and $f(x) > 0$ for all $x > 0$, so $f$ is linear, from which we conclude that $f(x) = x$, as desired.
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Enjoyed this a whole lot :P
Amin12 wrote:
Find all functions $f:\mathbb{R^+}\rightarrow\mathbb{R^+}$ such that
$$\frac{x+f(y)}{xf(y)}=f\left(\frac{1}{y}+f\left(\frac{1}{x}\right)\right)$$for all positive real numbers $x$ and $y$.

We begin our solution by claiming that $\boxed{f(x) \equiv x \forall \ x \in \mathbb{R^+}}$ is the only solution to the given equation. Note that it indeed works.
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Now, let $P(x,y)$ denote the given assertion.
$(\star) P \left(\frac{1}{x}, \frac{1}{f(y)}\right) : $
\begin{align*}
x + \frac{1}{f(\frac{1}{f(y)})} & = f(f(y) + f(x)) \\
                                                 & = f(f(x) + f(y)) \\
                                                 & = y + \frac{1}{f (\frac{1}{f(x)})} \\
\end{align*}Therefore, let $h(x) =\frac{1}{f \left(\frac{1}{f(x)}\right)} $. Then we have $h(x) - h(y) = x - y \implies h(x) = x + c \forall x \in \mathbb{R^+}$ and some $c \in \mathbb{R}$.
So, $f(\frac{1}{f(y)}) = \frac{1}{y+c} \implies f$ is injective . Now $P(f(x) , y) ; P(f(y),x)$ imply that $c = 0$. So $f(\frac{1}{f(y)}) = \frac{1}{y}$ and hence $f$ is bijective .
Thus, $P(f(x),y ) \implies \frac{1}{f(x)} + \frac{1}{f(y)} = f\left(\frac{1}{x} + \frac{1}{y} \right)$.
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Call the last equation $Q\left(\frac{1}{x} , \frac{1}{y}\right)$. Then, $Q(f(x) , f(y)) : f(f(x) + f(y)) = x + y \forall x, y \in \mathbb{R^+}$.
$(\star \star) Q(x,x) :  f(2f(x))  = 2x$
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$(\star \star \star) Q(2f(x) , 2f(y)): f(2x + 2y ) = 2\cdot (f(x) + f(y))$. (By induction on this, we get $f(2^nx + 2^ny) = 2^nf(x) +2^nf(y)$
In this equation replace $x \mapsto (x+z)$ and observe that:
$$ \underbrace{f(x+z) + f(y) = \frac{1}{2} \cdot \left(f( 2x + 2y + 2z)\right) = f(x+y) + f(z)}_{S(x,y,z)}$$Now using $S(x,x, 3x) : f(2x) + f(3x) = 5 \cdot f(x)$ and $S(x,2x,3x) : 2 \cdot f(3x) - f(2x) = 4 f(x)$.
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Combining both these equations, we get that $f(2x) = 2f(x)$. So , iterating $f$ on both sides we get $f(f(2x)) = f(2f(x)) = 2x \implies f(f(x)) = x \forall x \in  \mathbb{R^+}$.
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So, $f$ is an involution. Now comparing $Q(x,y)$ and $f(f(x+y))$ we see that
$$f(f(x)+f(y)) = x + y = f(f(x+y)) \overset{\text{injection}}{\implies} \underbrace{f(x) + f(y) = f(x+y)}_{\text{Cauchy}} \implies f \equiv \alpha x + \beta $$Plugging this back in $P(x,y)$ we get $\beta = 0$ and $\alpha = 1$.
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Denote the assertion as $P(x,y)$.

As $x\to 0$, we get unbounded values of $f$, and for a fixed value of $y$, we get that $f(x)$ is surjective over $\left(\frac{1}{f(y)},\infty\right)$. So, letting $f(y)$ tend towards infinity gives surjectivity.

If $f(x_1)=f(x_2)$, $P\left(\frac{1}{x_1},y\right),P\left(\frac{1}{x_2},y\right)$ gives $x_1=x_2$, so $f$ is bijective.

Consider $P\left(x,\frac{1}{y}\right)$. As $x$ varies for fixed $y$, we get that the image of $(y,\infty)$ is $\left(\frac{1}{f(1/y)},\infty\right)$. Thus, if $y_1<y_2$, $\frac{1}{f(1/y_1)}<\frac{1}{f(1/y_2)}$, so $f$ is increasing. As it is both increasing and bijective, our function must be continuous.

Consider $P\left(\frac{1}{y-\frac{1}{f(x)}},x\right)$. This gives that $f\left(\frac{1}{x}+f\left(y-\frac{1}{f(x)}\right)\right)=y-\frac{1}{f(x)}+\frac{1}{f(x)}=y$, so it is fixed as $x$ varies. Note that we must have $x>f^{-1}\left(\frac{1}{y}\right)$ to make sure the argument is positive, and as $x$ approaches this lower bound, the LHS gets arbitrarily close to $C=f\left(\frac{1}{f^{-1}\left(1/y\right)}\right)$. The RHS cannot be less than $C$, since it will otherwise be exceeded as $x$ approaches $f^{-1}\left(\frac{1}{y}\right)$. Likewise, it can't be more than $C$. So, we must have $f\left(\frac{1}{x}+f\left(y-\frac{1}{f(x)}\right)\right)=C=f\left(\frac{1}{f^{-1}(1/y)}\right)\implies \frac{1}{x}+f\left(y-\frac{1}{f(x)}\right)=\frac{1}{f^{-1}(1/y)}$. As $x\to\infty$, LHS approaches $f(y)$, so we can get by similar logic that it must always be $f(y)$. Thus, $f^{-1}(1/y)=\frac{1}{f(y)}\implies f\left(\frac{1}{f(y)}\right)=\frac{1}{y}$.

Finally, consider $P(x,f(y))$, which gives $\frac{1}{x}+\frac{1}{f(f(y))}=f\left(\frac{1}{f(y)}+f\left(\frac{1}{x}\right)\right)$. As $x\to\infty$, LHS approaches $\frac{1}{f(f(y))}$ while RHS is always larger, but approaches $\frac{1}{y}$ by above. Using a similar argument, if $\frac{1}{y}>\frac{1}{f(f(y))}$, then we eventualy have RHS>LHS, and if $\frac{1}{f(f(y))}>\frac{1}{y}$, we have the opposite. Hence, $\frac{1}{f(f(y))}=\frac{1}{y}\implies f(f(y))=y$.

Now, we have that $f$ is both an involution and increasing. If it is nonconstant, though, we can find $a<b$ such that $f(a)=b>f(b)=a$. Thus, $f(x)=x$ is the only solution.
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Amin12 wrote:
Find all functions $f:\mathbb{R^+}\rightarrow\mathbb{R^+}$ such that
$$\frac{x+f(y)}{xf(y)}=f(\frac{1}{y}+f(\frac{1}{x}))$$for all positive real numbers $x$ and $y$.
This is Hard(and Nice)
Claim 1.$f$ is injective function.
Proof:
$$P(\frac{1}{x},\frac{1}{f(y)})\implies f(f(x)+f(y))=x+\frac{1}{f(\frac{1}{f(y)})}=y+\frac{1}{f(\frac{1}{f(x)})}\implies f(\frac{1}{f(x)})=\frac{1}{x+c}$$$f(\frac{1}{f(x)})=\frac{1}{x+c}\implies f\to injective$
Claim 2.$f(\frac{1}{f(x)})=\frac{1}{x}$
Proof:
$P(f(x),y)\implies \frac{1}{f(x)}+\frac{1}{f(y)}=f(\frac{1}{y}+f(\frac{1}{f(x)}))=f(\frac{1}{y}+\frac{1}{x+c})$
$P(f(y),x)\implies \frac{1}{f(y)}+\frac{1}{f(x)}=f(\frac{1}{x}+f(\frac{1}{f(y)}))=f(\frac{1}{x}+\frac{1}{y+c})$
Then $f(\frac{1}{y}+\frac{1}{x+c})=f(\frac{1}{x}+\frac{1}{y+c})\implies \frac{1}{y}+\frac{1}{x+c}=\frac{1}{x}+\frac{1}{y+c}$
Then $c=0\implies f(\frac{1}{f(x)})=\frac{1}{x}$
$P(f(x),y)\implies f(\frac{1}{x}+\frac{1}{y})=\frac{1}{f(x)}+\frac{1}{f(y)}$
$x=\frac{kt}{k+t}\implies f(\frac{1}{k}+\frac{1}{t}+\frac{1}{y})=\frac{1}{f(y)}+\frac{1}{f(\frac{kt}{k+t})}$
Then
$\frac{1}{f(y)}+\frac{1}{f(\frac{kt}{k+t})}=\frac{1}{f(k)}+\frac{1}{f(\frac{yt}{y+t})}$
$\frac{1}{f(\frac{1}{x})}=g(x)$
Then
$g(\frac{1}{y})+g(\frac{1}{k}+\frac{1}{t})=g(\frac{1}{k})+g(\frac{1}{y}+\frac{1}{t})$
$\frac{1}{y}\to y,\frac{1}{k}\to k,\frac{1}{t}\to t$
Then
$g(y+t)-g(y)=g(k+t)-g(k)\implies g-additive$
And $g:\mathbb{R^+}\rightarrow\mathbb{R^+},additive\implies g(x)=kx+b$
$f(\frac{1}{f(x)})=\frac{1}{x}\implies g(\frac{1}{g(x)})=\frac{1}{x}\implies \frac{k}{kx+b}+b=\frac{1}{x}$
Then $b=0,k=1$
$g(x)=x,x\in R^+\implies f(x)=x,x\in R^+$
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Let $P(x,y)$ the given assertion.
$P(1/x,1/f(y)): 1/f(1/f(y)))+x=f(f(y)+f(x))$
$y\leftrightarrow x $: $1/f(1/f(y)))+x=1/f(1/f(x)))+y$ so $f(1/f(x))=1/(x+C)$, so $f$ is injective.
Now we have that $P(1/x,1/f(y)) : x+y+C=f(f(x)+f(y)) :Q(x,y)$
$Q(x+z,y): x+y+z+C=f(f(x+z)+f(y))$
$Q(x,y+z): x+y+z+C=f(f(x)+f(y+z))$.
Since $f$ is injective we have that $f(x+z)+f(y)=f(x)+f(y+z)$.
Therefore $x+y+C+f(f(z))=f(f(x)+f(y))+f(f(z))=f(f(x))+f(f(y)+f(z))=f(f(x))+y+z+C$ so $f(f(x))=x+D$.
$P(1/f(x),1/y): f(x)+1/f(1/y))=f(x+y+D)=f(y)+1/f(1/x))$ so $f(x)-1/f(1/x))=E$.
setting $x\leftrightarrow 1/x$ it's simple to show that $E=0$ so $f(x)f(1/x)=1$.
Since $f(1/f(x))=1/(x+C)$ we have that $f(f(x))=x+C$ so $C=D$.
Also $1/x+D=f(f(1/x))=f(1/f(x))=1/f(f(x))=1/(x+D)\Leftrightarrow...\Leftrightarrow D=0$, thus $C=D=0$.
So $f(f(x))=x$ and $f(f(x)+f(y))=x+y$.
$x\rightarrow f(x),y\rightarrow f(y): f(x+y)=f(x)+f(y)$ etc.
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Answer: $f(x)=\frac{1}{x} \ \ \forall x\in \mathbb{R}^+.$
Proof: It's easy to see that the above function is a solution. Let $P(x,y)$ denote the given assertion, by comparing \[P\left(\frac{1}{x}, \frac{1}{f(1)}\right) \implies \frac{1+xf\left(\frac{1}{f(1)}\right)}{f\left(\frac{1}{f(1)}\right)}=f(f(1)+f(x))\]and \[P\left(1,\frac{1}{f(x)}\right)\implies \frac{1+f\left(\frac{1}{f(x)}\right)}{f\left(\frac{1}{f(x)}\right)}=f(f(x)+f(1))\]we will get $f\left(\frac{1}{f(x)}\right)=\frac{1}{x+C_1}$ where $C_1=\frac{1}{f\left(\frac{1}{f(1)}\right)}-1.$ From here, it's also clear that $f$ is injective. Also, by comparing \[P(f(x),1) \implies \frac{f(x)+f(1)}{f(x)f(1)}=f\left(1+f\left(\frac{1}{f(x)}\right)\right)\]and \[P(f(1),x) \implies \frac{f(1)+f(x)}{f(1)f(x)}=f\left(\frac{1}{x}+f\left(\frac{1}{f(1)}\right)\right)\]we will get $f\left(1+f\left(\frac{1}{f(x)}\right)\right)=f\left(\frac{1}{x}+f\left(\frac{1}{f(1)}\right)\right) \implies f\left(\frac{1}{f(x)}\right)=\frac{1}{x}+C_2$ where $C_2=f\left(\frac{1}{f(1)}\right)-1.$ Therefore, we have $\frac{1}{x+C_1}=\frac{1}{x}+C_2$ or equivalently, $C_2x^2+C_1C_2x+C_1=0.$ Since this holds for all positive real $x$, it must be the case where $C_1=C_2=0$ which implies $f\left(\frac{1}{f(x)}\right)=\frac{1}{x}.$ Now notice that \[P\left(\frac{1}{x}, \frac{1}{f(x)}\right) \implies f(2f(x))=2x\]and so $4f(x)=f(2f(2f(x)))=f(4x).$ Then, \[P\left(\frac{1}{x}, \frac{1}{f(3x)}\right)\implies f(f(3x)+f(x))=4x=f(2f(2x)) \implies f(3x)+f(x)=2f(2x)\]and \[P\left(\frac{1}{2x}, \frac{1}{f(4x)}\right)\implies f(4f(x)+f(2x))=f(f(4x)+f(2x))=6x=f(2f(3x)) \implies 4f(x)+f(2x)=2f(3x)\]give us \[4f(2x)-2f(x)=2f(3x)=4f(x)+f(2x) \implies f(2x)=2f(x) \ \ \forall  x\in \mathbb{R}^{+}.\]Hence, $2f(f(x))=f(2f(x))=2x \implies f(f(x))=x$ and $f\left(\frac{1}{x}\right)=f\left(\frac{1}{f(f(x))}\right)=\frac{1}{f(x)}.$ Lastly, \[P\left(f\left(\frac{1}{x}\right), \frac{1}{y}\right)\implies f(x+y)=\frac{f\left(\frac{1}{x}\right)+f\left(\frac{1}{y}\right)}{f\left(\frac{1}{x}\right)f\left(\frac{1}{y}\right)}=f(x)+f(y)\]implies $f$ is additive over the positive reals, thus $f$ is linear and letting $f(x)=ax+b$ where $a,b$ are constants, we see that since $f(f(x))=x \implies a^2x+ab+b=x \implies a=1, b=0$, $\boxed{f(x)=x}$ is the only solution. $\quad \blacksquare$
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$\frac{x+f(y)}{xf(y)} = \frac{1}{f(y)} + \frac{1}{x}$ Now put $\frac{1}{x}$ instead of $x$ in equation. Let $P(x,y) : \frac{1}{f(y)} + x = f(\frac{1}{y} + f(x))$.
Let $f(a) = f(b)$ then $P(a,y) , P(b,y)$ implies that $f$ is injective.
$P(x,\frac{1}{f(y)}) : \frac{1}{f(\frac{1}{f(y)})} + x = f(f(y) + f(x)) = \frac{1}{f(\frac{1}{f(x)})} + y \implies \frac{1}{f(\frac{1}{f(x)})} - x = t \implies f(\frac{1}{f(x)}) = \frac{1}{x+t}$
$P(f(x),y) : f(\frac{1}{y} + \frac{1}{x+t}) = \frac{1}{f(y)} + \frac{1}{f(x)} = f(\frac{1}{x} + \frac{1}{y+t}) \implies \frac{1}{y} + \frac{1}{x+t} = \frac{1}{x} + \frac{1}{y+t} \implies t = 0 \implies f(\frac{1}{f(x)}) = \frac{1}{x}$
$P(x,\frac{1}{f(y)}) : \frac{1}{f(\frac{1}{f(y)})} + x = f(f(y) + f(x)) \implies f(f(y) + f(x)) = x+y$ Let $f(f(y) + f(x)) = x+y$ be $Q(x,y)$.
$Q(x,x) , Q(x-t,x+t) : f(x+t) - f(x) = f(x) - f(x-t)$ which holds for any $x > t > 0$ which implies that $f$ is linear so $f(x)=  ax + b$.
we had $f(f(y) + f(x)) = x+y \implies f(a(x+y)+2b) = x+y \implies a^2(x+y) + 2ab + b = x+y \implies (a^2-1)(x+y) + 2ab + b = 0$ which since $a,b$ are constant but $x,y$ are not implies that $a^2-1 = 0 \implies a = 1$ so $x+y + 2b + b = x+y \implies b = 0$ so $f(x) = ax + b = x$ which clearly works.
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Man this took really long

Note that the above is equivalent to $\frac{1}{f(y)}+\frac{1}{x}=f(\frac{1}{y}+f(\frac{1}{x}))$, which also implies injective as a result

Let $P(x,y) : \frac{1}{f(y)}+\frac{1}{x}=f(\frac{1}{y}+f(\frac{1}{x}))$
Setting $P(f(x),y)=P(f(y),x)$, we get $\frac{1}{y}-f(\frac{1}{f(y)})=\frac{1}{x}-f(\frac{1}{f(x)})$

This implies that $\frac{1}{x}-f(\frac{1}{f(x)})=-c$ for some constant $c$ over all values of $x$

Now, setting $P(x,\frac{1}{f(\frac{1}{y})})=(y,\frac{1}{f(\frac{1}{x})})$
$\frac{1}{x}-\frac{1}{x+c}=\frac{1}{y}-\frac{1}{y+c}$

Note this only holds iff $c=0$

Taking $P(x,\frac{1}{f(y)})$
$y+\frac{1}{x}=f(f(y)+f(\frac{1}{x}))$
$y+x=f(f(y)+f(x))$

Now note, if $a+b=c+d$
$f(f(a)+f(b))=a+b=c+d=f(f(c)+f(d))$
Due to injectivity, this implies $f(a)+f(b)=f(c)+f(d)$

Note $2f(3x)=f(4x)+f(2x)=3f(2x)$
Also, $5f(2x)=2f(3x)+2f(2x)=2f(4x)+2f(x)=4f(2x)+2f(x)$, so $f(2x)=2f(x)$

Recall $P(y,f(y))$ implies $\frac{f(y)}{2}f(\frac{2}{y})=1$
However, together with $f(2x)=2f(x)$, we have $\frac{1}{f(x)}=f(\frac{1}{x})$

Therefore, we have that $f(f(x))=x$

Also,$ P(\frac{1}{x},\frac{1}{y})$ gives us $f(y)+x=f(y+f(x))$ , Since $f$ is surjective, varying the value of $f(x)$, we have that $f$ is a strictly increasing function
FTSOC suppose $f(x)=a$ where $a>x$ Then, note $f(a)=x<a<f(x)$ contradiction. The same holds for when $a<x$

Hence, $f(x)=x$ for all values of $x$
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Find all functions $f:\mathbb{R^+}\rightarrow\mathbb{R^+}$ such that
$$\frac{x+f(y)}{xf(y)}=f(\frac{1}{y}+f(\frac{1}{x}))$$for all positive real numbers $x$ and $y$.

My 400th post. Let $P(x,y)$ be the assertion of the given FE, which is $$f\left(\frac1{y}+f\left(\frac1{x}\right)\right)=\frac1{f(y)}+\frac1{x},\quad\forall x,y>0.$$Assume that $f(a)=f(b)$, then $P(1/a,y)$ and $P(1/b,y)$ give $a=b$ or $f$ is injective.
Hence comparing $P(f(x),y)$ and $P(f(y),x)$, we easily get $$\frac1{y}+f\left(\frac1{f(x)}\right)=\frac1{x}+f\left(\frac1{f(y)}\right)\implies f\left(\frac1{f(x)}\right)=\frac1{x}+c.$$Similarly, comparing $P(1/x,1/f(y))$ and $P(1/y,1/f(x))$, we get $$f\left(\frac1{f(x)}\right)=\frac1{x+d}\implies\frac1{x}+c=\frac1{x+d},$$for all $x>0$. Let $x\to\infty$, we get $c=d=0$, so $f\left(\frac1{f(x)}\right)=\frac1{x}$ and $P(1/x,1/f(y))$ gives $$Q(x,y):f(f(x)+f(y))=x+y,\quad\forall x,y>0.$$$Q(f(x)+f(y),y)$ gives $$f(x+y+f(y))=f(x)+y+f(y).$$Plugging $x$ by $x+f(x)$ into the above FE and changing the role of $x,y$, by the injectivity, we get $$f(x+f(x))=x+f(x)+d.$$If $d>0$, $Q(x+f(x),d)$ and the injectivity give $d+f(d)=0$, absurb. Thus $d=0$, so $Q(x,f(x))$ gives $$f(f(x)+f(f(x)))=x+f(x)=f(x+f(x))\implies f(f(x))=x.$$$Q(f(x),f(y))$ immediately implies $f$ is additive, so after checking, we get $f(x)=x$ for all $x>0$ is a solution.
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Rewrite the assertion as $\frac 1x + \frac{1}{f(y)} = f(\frac 1y + f(\frac 1x))$.

Claim: $f$ is bijective.
Proof: For injectivity, we can vary $\frac 1x$. For surjectivity, observe we can hit any value above $\frac{1}{f(y)}$, since we can make $\frac{1}{f(y)}$ as small as we want we are done.

Now let $\frac 1y = a$, we have $\frac{1}{f(\frac 1a)} < f(a + k)$ as $k$ is a positive real. Then we have $\frac 1x + \frac{1}{f(y)} = f(\frac 1y + f(\frac 1x)) > \frac{1}{f(\frac{1}{f(x)})}$, so letting $\frac{1}{f(y)}$ approach zero gives $f(\frac{1}{f(x)}) \ge \frac 1x$. Now substitute $x = f(k)$, so we have $\frac{1}{f(k)} + \frac{1}{f(y)} = f(f(\frac{1}{f(k)}) + \frac 1y ) = f(\frac 1k + \frac 1y + c)$ for $c = f(\frac{1}{f(k)}) - \frac 1k \ge 0)$. Now observe each pair $(k,y)$ results in exactly one value of $c$, which is the same as the value of $c$ given by $(y,k)$, but also this value is uniquely determined by $k$ so $c$ is constant, thus $f(\frac{1}{f(x)}) = \frac 1x + c$, but since the left hand side gets as small as we want we must have $c = 0$ and $\frac{1}{f(x)}+ \frac{1}{f(y)}= f(\frac 1x + \frac 1y)$.

Now let $f(a)= 1, f(\frac{1}{f(a)} ) = f(1) = a$, then we have $f(\frac{1}{f(1)}) =f(\frac 1a) = 1$, so $a = \frac 1a$ giving $a = 1$.

Now we prove that $f$ is the identity. Assume $a < b$ but $f(a) \ge f(b)$. Now we have $\frac{1}{f(a)} \le\frac{1}{f(b)} < f(\frac 1b + k) = f(\frac 1a)$, giving $f(a)f(\frac 1a) > 1$. Clearly, $a$ cannot be $1$, so $f(x) > 1$ for $x > 1$. Likewise, assume $\frac{1}{f(x)} > 1 $, which gives $\frac 1x > 1$, so $f(x) > 1$ iff $x  >1$. This fact carries the rest of the solution, we can now proceed with a standard rational extension.

First we solve $f$ over rationals. Let $Q$ be the assertion $\frac{1}{f(x)} + \frac{1}{f(y)} = f(\frac 1x + \frac 1y)$. Now $Q(1,1)$ gives $f(2) = 2$, then we can use the assertion $R$, being $f(\frac{1}{f(x)}) = \frac 1x$ to get $f(\frac 12) = 2$. Now we can always induct, do $Q(1, \frac 1n)$ to get $f(n + 1) =n + 1$ and $R(n + 1)$ to get $f(\frac{1}{n + 1}) = \frac{1}{n +1}$. Now to get all rationals we induct on the denominator, we can use $Q(\frac 1n, 2)$ to get all rationals with denominator $2$, then use $Q(\frac 1n, 3)$ and $Q(\frac 1n, \frac 32)$ to get all rationals with denominator $3$, and so one and so forth we win.

To finish, we prove $f(r) = r$ for all reals. First take $r > 1$. Assume $f(r) > r$. Then there exists some rational $q$ with $\frac{1}{f(q)} + \frac{1}{f(r)} < 1 < \frac 1q + \frac 1r$, contradiction. Symmetrical argument proves $f(r) = r$ for $r > 1$. Now consider $R(\frac 1r)$, this gives $f(\frac{1}{f(\frac 1r)}) = r$, giving $\frac 1r = f(\frac 1r)$ by injectivity.
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\[\frac{1}{f(y)}+x=f(\frac{1}{y}+f(x))\]Answer is $f(x)=x$ which holds. Let $P(x,y)$ be the assertion.
Claim: $f$ is bijective.
Proof: If $f(a)=f(b)$, compare $P(a,y)$ and $P(b,y)$ to get contradiction. Fix $y$ and increase $x$ to see that $f$ takes all sufficiently large positive values. We can pick $1/f(y)$ sufficiently small thus, $f$ is surjective.
Claim: $f(\frac{1}{f(x)})=\frac{1}{x}$.
Proof: Plug $P(x,1/f(y))$ in order to observe that
\[\frac{1}{f(\frac{1}{f(y)})}+x=f(f(x)+f(y))=\frac{1}{f(\frac{1}{f(x)})}+y\implies x-\frac{1}{f(\frac{1}{f(x)})}=y-\frac{1}{f(\frac{1}{f(y)})}\]Since this implies $x-1/f(1/f(x))$ is constant and it's smaller than any positive $y$, it must be a nonpositive constant. Let $\frac{1}{f(\frac{1}{f(x)})}=x+c$ or $f(\frac{1}{f(x)})=\frac{1}{x+c}$ where $c\geq 0$. By symmetry and injectivity we have
\[f(\frac{1}{x}+\frac{1}{y+c})=f(\frac{1}{x}+f(\frac{1}{f(y)}))=\frac{1}{f(y)}+\frac{1}{f(x)}=f(\frac{1}{y}+f(\frac{1}{f(x)}))=f(\frac{1}{y}+\frac{1}{x+c})\]Thus, $\frac{1}{x}-\frac{1}{x+c}=\frac{c}{x(x+c)}$ is constant which requires $c=0$. So $f(1/f(x))=1/x$ as we have claimed.
Claim: $f$ is involution and $f(x)f(\frac{1}{x})=1$.
Proof: $P(x,1/f(y))$ gives $x+y=f(f(x)+f(y)) $. We get $f(f(x)+f(y+z))=x+y+z=f(f(x+z)+f(y))$ and injectivity implies $f(x+y)-f(x)$ is independent of $x$. Let $f(x+y)-f(x)=h(y)$. Since $h(x)+f(y)=f(x+y)=h(y)+f(x)$ we observe $h(x)=f(x)+d$. Thus, $f(x+y)=f(x)+f(y)+d$.
\[f(f(x))+f(\frac{1}{y})+d=f(f(x)+\frac{1}{y})=x+\frac{1}{f(y)}\]$f(f(x))-x=t$ and $f(\frac{1}{y})-\frac{1}{f(y)}=r$. Since $r=f(\frac{1}{f(x)})-\frac{1}{f(f(x))}=\frac{1}{x}-\frac{1}{x+t}=\frac{t}{x(x+t)}$, we must have $t=0$ which implies $r=0$. Thus, $f$ is an involution and $f(x)f(\frac{1}{x})=1$.
Claim: $f$ is additive.
Proof: $P(f(x),1/y)$ yields $f(x)+f(y)=f(x+y)$.

Since $f$ is additive and $f$ takes values on positive reals, $f$ is Cauchy function hence $f(x)=cx$ which implies $c=1$. So $f(x)=x$ is the only solution as desired.$\blacksquare$
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