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k a April Highlights and 2025 AoPS Online Class Information
jlacosta   0
Apr 2, 2025
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k i A Letter to MSM
Arr0w   23
N Sep 19, 2022 by scannose
Greetings.

I have seen many posts talking about commonly asked questions, such as finding the value of $0^0$, $\frac{1}{0}$,$\frac{0}{0}$, $\frac{\infty}{\infty}$, why $0.999...=1$ or even expressions of those terms combined as if that would make them defined. I have made this post to answer these questions once and for all, and I politely ask everyone to link this post to threads that are talking about this issue.
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[*]Firstly, the case of $0^0$. It is usually regarded that $0^0=1$, not because this works numerically but because it is convenient to define it this way. You will see the convenience of defining other undefined things later on in this post.

[*]What about $\frac{\infty}{\infty}$? The issue here is that $\infty$ isn't even rigorously defined in this expression. What exactly do we mean by $\infty$? Unless the example in question is put in context in a formal manner, then we say that $\frac{\infty}{\infty}$ is meaningless.

[*]What about $\frac{1}{0}$? Suppose that $x=\frac{1}{0}$. Then we would have $x\cdot 0=0=1$, absurd. A more rigorous treatment of the idea is that $\lim_{x\to0}\frac{1}{x}$ does not exist in the first place, although you will see why in a calculus course. So the point is that $\frac{1}{0}$ is undefined.

[*]What about if $0.99999...=1$? An article from brilliant has a good explanation. Alternatively, you can just use a geometric series. Notice that
\begin{align*}
\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{9}{10^n}&=9\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{10^n}=9\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\biggr(\frac{1}{10}\biggr)^n=9\biggr(\frac{\frac{1}{10}}{1-\frac{1}{10}}\biggr)=9\biggr(\frac{\frac{1}{10}}{\frac{9}{10}}\biggr)=9\biggr(\frac{1}{9}\biggr)=\boxed{1}
\end{align*}
[*]What about $\frac{0}{0}$? Usually this is considered to be an indeterminate form, but I would also wager that this is also undefined.
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Hopefully all of these issues and their corollaries are finally put to rest. Cheers.

2nd EDIT (6/14/22): Since I originally posted this, it has since blown up so I will try to add additional information per the request of users in the thread below.

INDETERMINATE VS UNDEFINED

What makes something indeterminate? As you can see above, there are many things that are indeterminate. While definitions might vary slightly, it is the consensus that the following definition holds: A mathematical expression is be said to be indeterminate if it is not definitively or precisely determined. So how does this make, say, something like $0/0$ indeterminate? In analysis (the theory behind calculus and beyond), limits involving an algebraic combination of functions in an independent variable may often be evaluated by replacing these functions by their limits. However, if the expression obtained after this substitution does not provide sufficient information to determine the original limit, then the expression is called an indeterminate form. For example, we could say that $0/0$ is an indeterminate form.

But we need to more specific, this is still ambiguous. An indeterminate form is a mathematical expression involving at most two of $0$, $1$ or $\infty$, obtained by applying the algebraic limit theorem (a theorem in analysis, look this up for details) in the process of attempting to determine a limit, which fails to restrict that limit to one specific value or infinity, and thus does not determine the limit being calculated. This is why it is called indeterminate. Some examples of indeterminate forms are
\[0/0, \infty/\infty, \infty-\infty, \infty \times 0\]etc etc. So what makes something undefined? In the broader scope, something being undefined refers to an expression which is not assigned an interpretation or a value. A function is said to be undefined for points outside its domain. For example, the function $f:\mathbb{R}^{+}\cup\{0\}\rightarrow\mathbb{R}$ given by the mapping $x\mapsto \sqrt{x}$ is undefined for $x<0$. On the other hand, $1/0$ is undefined because dividing by $0$ is not defined in arithmetic by definition. In other words, something is undefined when it is not defined in some mathematical context.

WHEN THE WATERS GET MUDDIED

So with this notion of indeterminate and undefined, things get convoluted. First of all, just because something is indeterminate does not mean it is not undefined. For example $0/0$ is considered both indeterminate and undefined (but in the context of a limit then it is considered in indeterminate form). Additionally, this notion of something being undefined also means that we can define it in some way. To rephrase, this means that technically, we can make something that is undefined to something that is defined as long as we define it. I'll show you what I mean.

One example of making something undefined into something defined is the extended real number line, which we define as
\[\overline{\mathbb{R}}=\mathbb{R}\cup \{-\infty,+\infty\}.\]So instead of treating infinity as an idea, we define infinity (positively and negatively, mind you) as actual numbers in the reals. The advantage of doing this is for two reasons. The first is because we can turn this thing into a totally ordered set. Specifically, we can let $-\infty\le a\le \infty$ for each $a\in\overline{\mathbb{R}}$ which means that via this order topology each subset has an infimum and supremum and $\overline{\mathbb{R}}$ is therefore compact. While this is nice from an analytic standpoint, extending the reals in this way can allow for interesting arithmetic! In $\overline{\mathbb{R}}$ it is perfectly OK to say that,
\begin{align*}
a + \infty = \infty + a & = \infty, & a & \neq -\infty \\
a - \infty = -\infty + a & = -\infty, & a & \neq \infty \\
a \cdot (\pm\infty) = \pm\infty \cdot a & = \pm\infty, & a & \in (0, +\infty] \\
a \cdot (\pm\infty) = \pm\infty \cdot a & = \mp\infty, & a & \in [-\infty, 0) \\
\frac{a}{\pm\infty} & = 0, & a & \in \mathbb{R} \\
\frac{\pm\infty}{a} & = \pm\infty, & a & \in (0, +\infty) \\
\frac{\pm\infty}{a} & = \mp\infty, & a & \in (-\infty, 0).
\end{align*}So addition, multiplication, and division are all defined nicely. However, notice that we have some indeterminate forms here which are also undefined,
\[\infty-\infty,\frac{\pm\infty}{\pm\infty},\frac{\pm\infty}{0},0\cdot \pm\infty.\]So while we define certain things, we also left others undefined/indeterminate in the process! However, in the context of measure theory it is common to define $\infty \times 0=0$ as greenturtle3141 noted below. I encourage to reread what he wrote, it's great stuff! As you may notice, though, dividing by $0$ is undefined still! Is there a place where it isn't? Kind of. To do this, we can extend the complex numbers! More formally, we can define this extension as
\[\mathbb{C}^*=\mathbb{C}\cup\{\tilde{\infty}\}\]which we call the Riemann Sphere (it actually forms a sphere, pretty cool right?). As a note, $\tilde{\infty}$ means complex infinity, since we are in the complex plane now. Here's the catch: division by $0$ is allowed here! In fact, we have
\[\frac{z}{0}=\tilde{\infty},\frac{z}{\tilde{\infty}}=0.\]where $\tilde{\infty}/\tilde{\infty}$ and $0/0$ are left undefined. We also have
\begin{align*}
z+\tilde{\infty}=\tilde{\infty}, \forall z\ne -\infty\\
z\times \tilde{\infty}=\tilde{\infty}, \forall z\ne 0
\end{align*}Furthermore, we actually have some nice properties with multiplication that we didn't have before. In $\mathbb{C}^*$ it holds that
\[\tilde{\infty}\times \tilde{\infty}=\tilde{\infty}\]but $\tilde{\infty}-\tilde{\infty}$ and $0\times \tilde{\infty}$ are left as undefined (unless there is an explicit need to change that somehow). One could define the projectively extended reals as we did with $\mathbb{C}^*$, by defining them as
\[{\widehat {\mathbb {R} }}=\mathbb {R} \cup \{\infty \}.\]They behave in a similar way to the Riemann Sphere, with division by $0$ also being allowed with the same indeterminate forms (in addition to some other ones).
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k i Marathon Threads
LauraZed   0
Jul 2, 2019
Due to excessive spam and inappropriate posts, we have locked the Prealgebra and Beginning Algebra threads.

We will either unlock these threads once we've cleaned them up or start new ones, but for now, do not start new marathon threads for these subjects. Any new marathon threads started while this announcement is up will be immediately deleted.
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k i Basic Forum Rules and Info (Read before posting)
jellymoop   368
N May 16, 2018 by harry1234
f (Reminder: Do not post Alcumus or class homework questions on this forum. Instructions below.) f
Welcome to the Middle School Math Forum! Please take a moment to familiarize yourself with the rules.

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jellymoop
May 8, 2015
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May 16, 2018
My hardest algebra ever created (only one solve in the contest)
mshtand1   0
a minute ago
Source: Ukraine IMO TST P9
Find all functions \( f: (0, +\infty) \to (0, +\infty) \) for which, for all \( x, y > 0 \), the following identity holds:
\[
f(x) f(yf(x)) + y f(xy) = \frac{f\left(\frac{x}{y}\right)}{y} + \frac{f\left(\frac{y}{x}\right)}{x}
\]
Proposed by Mykhailo Shtandenko
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mshtand1
a minute ago
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Killer NT that nobody solved (also my hardest NT ever created)
mshtand1   0
6 minutes ago
Source: Ukraine IMO 2025 TST P8
A positive integer number \( a \) is chosen. Prove that there exists a prime number that divides infinitely many terms of the sequence \( \{b_k\}_{k=1}^{\infty} \), where
\[
b_k = a^{k^k} \cdot 2^{2^k - k} + 1.
\]
Proposed by Arsenii Nikolaev and Mykhailo Shtandenko
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+1 w
mshtand1
6 minutes ago
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Winner with least wins
IMOStarter   0
17 minutes ago
In a certain city's football match, each team is required to play a game against every other team. A win earns 3 points, a draw earns 1 point, and a loss earns 0 points. It is known that there is a team with the highest score, which is more than the score of any other team, but this team has the fewest number of wins, which is less than that of any other team. How many teams are there at least participating in the competition?
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IMOStarter
17 minutes ago
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Squares on height in right triangle
Miquel-point   0
an hour ago
Source: Romanian NMO 2025 7.4
Consider the right-angled triangle $ABC$ with $\angle A$ right and $AD\perp BC$, $D\in BC$. On the ray $[AD$ we take two points $E$ and $H$ so that $AE=AC$ and $AH=AB$. Consider the squares $AEFG$ and $AHJI$ containing inside $C$ and $B$, respectively. If $K=EG\cap AC$ and $L=IH\cap AB$, $N=IL\cap GK$ and $M=IB\cap GC$, prove that $LK\parallel BC$ and that $A$, $N$ and $M$ are collinear.
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Preparing for Higher AIME+
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N 3 hours ago by sadas123
Hello, I am going to be a 7th grader next year and I really want to qualify for USAJMO in 8th grade, so far I have these goals reached

1. AMC 10 Honor Roll A and B 2025
2. AMC 8 DHR and HR
3. AIME 3 :(

This year on AIME something happened and I got a 3 :( on the AMC's I got a 105 on AMC 10 A and I got a 114 on AMC 10 B. I want to improve mostly on AIME but since the AMC 10 is coming up quicker what would you guys recommend for getting 110+ on both of the AMC 10's and getting a 6+ on AIME? So far I am only doing Alcumus and have no books so far.... Checking the table of contents on the books Alcumus provides the same topics. I was thinking to take WOOT 1 and AMC 10 Problem Series.
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Website to learn math
hawa   34
N 5 hours ago by iwastedmyusername
Hi, I'm kinda curious what website do yall use to learn math, like i dont find any website thats fun to learn math
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hawa
Apr 9, 2025
iwastedmyusername
5 hours ago
2500th post
Solocraftsolo   19
N 6 hours ago by b2025tyx
i keep forgetting to do these...


2500 is cool.

i am not very sentimental so im not going to post a math story or anything.

here are some problems though

p1p2p3

p4
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Solocraftsolo
Apr 16, 2025
b2025tyx
6 hours ago
Bogus Proof Marathon
pifinity   7583
N 6 hours ago by HM2018
Hi!
I'd like to introduce the Bogus Proof Marathon.

In this marathon, simply post a bogus proof that is middle-school level and the next person will find the error. You don't have to post the real solution :P

Use classic Marathon format:
[hide=P#]a1b2c3[/hide]
[hide=S#]a1b2c3[/hide]


Example posts:

P(x)
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S(x)
P(x+1)
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Let's go!! Just don't make it too hard!
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pifinity
Mar 12, 2018
HM2018
6 hours ago
Geometry Transformation Problems
ReticulatedPython   4
N Today at 3:03 PM by cheltstudent
Problem 1:
A regular hexagon of side length $1$ is rotated $360$ degrees about one side. The space through which the hexagon travels forms a solid. Find the volume of this solid.

Problem 2:

A regular octagon of side length $1$ is rotated $360$ degrees about one side. The space through which the octagon travels through forms a solid. Find the volume of this solid.

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Useful Formulas
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ReticulatedPython
Apr 17, 2025
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Today at 3:03 PM
simplify inequality
ngelyy   12
N Today at 2:19 PM by K1mchi_
$\frac{24x}{21}+\frac{35x}{49}-\frac{x}{2}$
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ngelyy
Yesterday at 2:59 AM
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Camp Conway acceptance
fossasor   14
N Today at 1:32 PM by fossasor
Hello! I've just been accepted into Camp Conway, but I'm not sure how popular this camp actually is, given that it's new. Has anyone else applied/has been accepted/is going? (I'm trying to figure out to what degree this acceptance was just lack of qualified applicants, so I can better predict my chances of getting into my preferred math camp.)
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Feb 20, 2025
fossasor
Today at 1:32 PM
2025 Mathcounts Countdown Practice
HKIS-Math   1
N Today at 10:53 AM by HKIS-Math
Date & Time:
Sunday April 20th, 2025, 6:30pm EDT (5:30pm CDT, 3:30pm PDT)
The total duration is expected to be 3.5~4.5 hours.

Host: Dr. Jiangang Yao
Dr. Yao was fascinated with mathematics as a child and started his involvement with mathematical olympiad since then. He won the gold medal with full marks in the 35th International Mathematical Olympiad and got math PhD degree from UC Berkeley. He has been the coach for mathematical olympiad at various levels for 30 years, and has written a few popular mathematical olympiad books in Chinese.

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Students who have been invited to the 2025 MathCounts National Competition. Every student will receive a unique three-digit number after registration so that participation can be anonymous, though participants are welcome to show real names as well.

Guests:
Math fans who want to solve interesting math olympiad problems.

Schedule:
6:30pm ~7:30pm: 12 problems with difficulty levels similar to Mathcounts National Sprint and Target will be presented and discussed, and official participants will be given points based on speed (10 pts for the first correct answer, 9pts for 2nd correct answer, etc, 1pt for 10th correct answer.)

7:45~9:00 pm: Top 12 official participants will be identified from the first round to attend the 1-1 matchups. (#12 v.s. #5 with winner A, #11 v.s. #6 with winner B, #10 v.s. #7 with winner C, #9 v.s. #8 with winner D, #4 v.s. A, #3 v.s. B, #2 v.s. C, #1 v.s. D). In each matchup, 5 questions will be presented and the participant who first successfully gets 3 questions correct is the winner. In this round, 5x8 =40 problems will be played.

9:15~10:00pm: Two semi-finals, bronze determination, and final. Each 1-1 matchup will have 7 questions, and the participant who first successfully answers 4 questions is the winner. In this round, 4x7=28 problems will be played. The Top 4 contestants will receive awards.

All guests can submit the answers to all the questions as well. Those who submitted correct answers fast will be appraised.

2022 40 mathletes, 2023 64 mathlets, and 2024 99 mathlets for Mathcounts National attended this practice. We are looking forward to have more students participate this year.

Here is the link for registration:
https://forms.gle/xoRNMLrRnn7KjFiUA
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HKIS-Math
Apr 17, 2025
HKIS-Math
Today at 10:53 AM
0!??????
wizwilzo   52
N Today at 6:15 AM by Craftybutterfly
why is 0! "1" ??!
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wizwilzo
Jul 6, 2016
Craftybutterfly
Today at 6:15 AM
Weird Similarity
mithu542   1
N Today at 2:16 AM by nitride
Is it just me or are the 2023 national sprint #21 and 2025 state target #4 strangely similar?
[quote=2023 Natioinal Sprint #21] A right triangle with integer side lengths has perimeter $N$ feet and area $N$ ft^2. What is the arithmetic mean of all possible values of $N$?[/quote]
[quote=2025 State Target #4]Suppose a right triangle has an area of 20 cm^2 and a perimeter of 40 cm. What is
the length of the hypotenuse, in centimeters?[/quote]
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mithu542
Yesterday at 6:03 PM
nitride
Today at 2:16 AM
A complete quadrangle problem with bisectors and diagonals
cyshine   5
N Nov 6, 2007 by Umut Varolgunes
Source: Brazilian Math Olympiad 2007, Problem 5
Let $ ABCD$ be a convex quadrangle, $ P$ the intersection of lines $ AB$ and $ CD$, $ Q$ the intersection of lines $ AD$ and $ BC$ and $ O$ the intersection of diagonals $ AC$ and $ BD$. Show that if $ \angle POQ= 90^\circ$ then $ PO$ is the bisector of $ \angle AOD$ and $ OQ$ is the bisector of $ \angle AOB$.
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cyshine
Nov 2, 2007
Umut Varolgunes
Nov 6, 2007
A complete quadrangle problem with bisectors and diagonals
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Let $ ABCD$ be a convex quadrangle, $ P$ the intersection of lines $ AB$ and $ CD$, $ Q$ the intersection of lines $ AD$ and $ BC$ and $ O$ the intersection of diagonals $ AC$ and $ BD$. Show that if $ \angle POQ= 90^\circ$ then $ PO$ is the bisector of $ \angle AOD$ and $ OQ$ is the bisector of $ \angle AOB$.
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It is very easy and clearly if you use harmonis division.
http://www.mathlinks.ro/Forum/viewtopic.php?t=161310
http://www.mathlinks.ro/Forum/viewtopic.php?t=168866

In this problem we have:
$ (OB,OC,OP,OQ) = - 1$
And $ \angle{POQ} = 90^0$ then $ PO$ is the bisector of $ \angle AOD$ and $ OQ$ is the bisector of $ \angle AOB$.

PS: If don't use harmonis division we can solve this problem by Menelaus theorem!
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Yes, it´s very simple if you use these projective ideas.

First, consider that there are points $ E, F$ such that $ \{E\}=AC \cap PQ$ and $ \{F\}=BD \cap PQ$. By Menelaus theorem on $ \triangle PBQ$, line $ CE$ and Ceva theorem on $ \triangle PBQ$, cevians $ BF, QA, PC$, we discover that $ \displaystyle\frac{EP}{EQ}=\displaystyle\frac{FP}{FQ}$. So, $ E,F$ divide harmonically the segment $ PQ$.
If $ AC\parallel PQ$, we use Ceva theorem on $ \triangle PBQ$, cevians $ BF, QA, PC$ and we use $ \triangle BPQ \sim \triangle BAC$ to discover that $ PF=QF$, so, again, $ E_\infty,F$ divide harmonically the segment $ PQ$ (here, $ E_\infty$ is the point of infinity corresponding to the lines parallel to $ PQ$).
Hence, we always have $ E,F$ dividing harmonically the segment $ PQ$. So, the lines $ OE, OF$ divide harmonically the lines $ OP, OQ$. Suppose that $ OP \perp OQ$. Choose a line $ r$ parallel to $ OQ$ through $ P$. $ r$ intersects the lines $ OE,OF,OP,OQ$ in the points $ \bar{E}, \bar{F},P,Q_\infty$. And the points $ P,Q_\infty$ should divide harmonically the segment $ \bar{E} \bar{F}$. So, it’s clear that $ \bar{E}P=\bar{F}P$, which gives us $ \angle \bar{E}OP=\angle PO\bar{F}$, and that the lines $ OP,OQ$ bissect the lines $ OE,OF$.
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i found something wrong in this question.
assume that the question is true. bisectors of angles (APC) and (AQC) are perpendicular. so m(ABC)+m(ADC)=180 and ABCD is circumscribed. also intersection of this bisectors is {O} and m(OAP)=m(OBP) hence triangles OAP and OBP is equal. this gives a contradiction because it must be AD=BC and AB and CD are parallel so they can't intersect.
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anonymous1173 wrote:
bisectors of angles (APC) and (AQC) are perpendicular

Please read this problem carefully!
$ OP,OQ$ are bisector of $ \angle{AOD},\angle{AOB}$
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Umut Varolgunes
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:blush: :blush: I'm so sorry. thanks tdl :)
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