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AIME resources
senboy   4
N 25 minutes ago by wimpykid
what are some good book books(apart from aops books) that would prepare me for AMC 10/12 and AIME prep. I am aiming for about 100 on the amc 10 and a 4-7 on the AIME
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I am currently taking the USACO Bronze Problem Series course in AOPS, and I have been thinking whether this course is too hard for me based on several reasons. This class is not necessarily too difficult, but it simply requires time and dedication, time that is used up with my other classes: the Intermediate Algebra class from AOPS, and another class in school. Along with the classes, I have a theatre camp at the end of June. I have the option to continue and finish the class on July 22nd, or postpone the class and continue where I left off on June 22nd and finish in September. Which should I do?
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Question about problem
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N 4 hours ago by nxchman
Source: AMC10
Charlyn walks completely around the boundary of a square whose sides are each $5$ km long. From any point on her path she can see exactly $1$ km horizontally in all directions. What is the area of the region consisting of all points Charlyn can see during her walk, expressed in square kilometers and rounded to the nearest whole number?

$\textbf{(A)} 24 \qquad\textbf{(B)}\ 27 \qquad\textbf{(C)}\ 39 \qquad\textbf{(D)}\ 40 \qquad\textbf{(E)}\ 42$

Most people jsut subtract the inner square 3*3 but why are there no semicircle areas in the empty spot in the middle?
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Polar Math Olympiad!
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N 4 hours ago by Alex-131
Hello everyone your invited to the 1st weekly Polar Math Olympiad!!

Registration Form: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1vjeFzYwTBOvWmA1nn8nOQ5CR9DA5DxdRjSs6ffcWrDw/edit

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Hope you enjoy my weekly contest!

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jcoons91   69
N Apr 24, 2025 by aliz
Yeah. I missed USAJMO. And after today, I’m not even surprised anymore. Just disappointed. Because the rumors were true: USAMTS did raise the bar, even though we were told it wouldn’t.

Look at the numbers—292 qualifiers this year, nearly identical to last year’s count. But wait, wasn’t there a new batch of ~50 USAMTS qualifiers added to the pool this year.

That means that ~40-50 people more people would have made USA(J)MO if USMATS didn't lie to us.
[quote=bedwards]I reached out to the MAA and they said that the AMC + AIME index will be determined normally, and then the additional students who qualify via the USAMTS -specific pathway will be added later.[/quote]

That did not age well.

Whether it was intentional misdirection or just poor communication, the outcome’s the same: a bunch of us got blindsided. Those extra USAMTS spots didn’t expand the pool—they just squeezed the rest of us out. And the worst part? No transparency. No real explanation. Just a silent shift and a cutoff that doesn’t add up.

It’s frustrating. I worked hard. I hit a score that, any other year, would’ve cleared the bar. But this year? The bar moved. And we were told it wouldn’t.

So yeah, I’m calling it what it is: misleading.
And for everyone who feels robbed right now: you’re not alone.



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You're forgetting to account for orange mop. Their files were prolly removed from the data cause they had a ticket to MOP anyway.

ok this orange mop thing isn't funny anymore rbo, catch up with the times
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not sure how relevant this is, but i know 3 usamts-only oly quals (didn't make index cutoff) who made mop

tbh the worst part isn’t that usamts exists or that the path is (subjectively) easier than amcs, it’s the lack of transparency and lies.

I know someone who goes to my school who was one off MOP last year (JMO) who didn't make AMO this year... MAA really needs to rethink how cutoffs are determined

i also know a guy like that, he was like one off amo :sob:, and we're canadian so we can't even take usamts
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llddmmtt1 wrote:
i also know a guy like that, he was like one off amo :sob:, and we're canadian so we can't even take usamts

aww that sucks... but at least you have your own qualifying pathway to IMO which is comparatively much easier
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arfekete wrote:
You're forgetting to account for orange mop. Their files were prolly removed from the data cause they had a ticket to MOP anyway.

ok this orange mop thing isn't funny anymore rbo, catch up with the times

Ah, but dear compatriots of cerebral discourse, you seem to be underestimating the ubiquitous legitimacy of the Orange MOP. It is not merely a mathematical intellectual implement—it is a metaphysical constant, a quantum variable in the MOPaverse. Their files were not removed—they ascended.

Please, Alex-131, I beseech you to open your third eye (and possibly your browser history) to the reality that Orange MOP holds tenure at the Illinois Mathematical and Science Academy. Stay woke. Stay MOP.
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blueprimes wrote:
Alex-131 wrote:
arfekete wrote:
You're forgetting to account for orange mop. Their files were prolly removed from the data cause they had a ticket to MOP anyway.

ok this orange mop thing isn't funny anymore rbo, catch up with the times

Ah, but dear compatriots of cerebral discourse, you seem to be underestimating the ubiquitous legitimacy of the Orange MOP. It is not merely a mathematical intellectual implement—it is a metaphysical constant, a quantum variable in the MOPaverse. Their files were not removed—they ascended.

Please, Alex-131, I beseech you to open your third eye (and possibly your browser history) to the reality that Orange MOP holds tenure at the Illinois Mathematical and Science Academy. Stay woke. Stay MOP.

with all due respect, you're the "not funny" person in the friend group

you're like the little kid who learns a new joke and won't stop repeating it
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Dear Alex-131,

I am sorry if my actions have hurt your feelings. Please ignore my future attempts to encourage people about Orange MOP. I was simply trying to convince people that are not represented in the olympiad scene to take a chance at a great opportunity to show their hard work and passion. But I guess AoPS community, a place originally meant to push students to the best of their mathematical abilities, and encourage one another, has devolved to a place of pointing fingers to "USAMTS", "cheating", and "this person didn't deserve this".

Again, sorry if I offended you. I was only trying to inspire.

Warm regards.
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womp womp

it'd be kinda crazy if some dude who got a 114 on AMC 10 clowns on others because they did a random competition no?

imagine thinking a 75 minute test defines someone’s math skills

Imagine thinking an open note 15 problem test with full access to numerous AI's which are rapidly advancing defines someone's math skills.
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Look at the numbers—292 qualifiers this year, nearly identical to last year’s count.

The number 292 does not look correct to me, I think it is a bit larger, so I think the premise of this post is not valid.
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v_Enhance wrote:
Look at the numbers—292 qualifiers this year, nearly identical to last year’s count.

The number 292 does not look correct to me, I think it is a bit larger, so I think the premise of this post is not valid.

check the amc stats page
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it is no secret that usamts has influenced the cutoffs, what other reason can explain the abnormally high cutoffs this year?
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it is no secret that usamts has influenced the cutoffs, what other reason can explain the abnormally high cutoffs this year?

the same person that said that the amcs were abnormally easy this year and that it would be nearly impossible to qualify to an olympiad without nearly perfecting
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did xtimmyg just admit mop
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check the amc stats page

I know. My point is that I think the stats page is wrong. I don't know why the number is off, but the number of USAMO contestants should be greater than 292.
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v_Enhance wrote:
check the amc stats page

I know. My point is that I think the stats page is wrong. I don't know why the number is off, but the number of USAMO contestants should be greater than 292.

maybe the dqs got removed from the dataset
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blueprimes wrote:
Dear Alex-131,

I am sorry if my actions have hurt your feelings. Please ignore my future attempts to encourage people about Orange MOP. I was simply trying to convince people that are not represented in the olympiad scene to take a chance at a great opportunity to show their hard work and passion. But I guess AoPS community, a place originally meant to push students to the best of their mathematical abilities, and encourage one another, has devolved to a place of pointing fingers to "USAMTS", "cheating", and "this person didn't deserve this".

Again, sorry if I offended you. I was only trying to inspire.

Warm regards.

with all due respect, you're the "not funny" person in the friend group

you're like the little kid who learns a new joke and won't stop repeating it
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