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k a March Highlights and 2025 AoPS Online Class Information
jlacosta   0
Mar 2, 2025
March is the month for State MATHCOUNTS competitions! Kudos to everyone who participated in their local chapter competitions and best of luck to all going to State! Join us on March 11th for a Math Jam devoted to our favorite Chapter competition problems! Are you interested in training for MATHCOUNTS? Be sure to check out our AMC 8/MATHCOUNTS Basics and Advanced courses.

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k i A Letter to MSM
Arr0w   23
N Sep 19, 2022 by scannose
Greetings.

I have seen many posts talking about commonly asked questions, such as finding the value of $0^0$, $\frac{1}{0}$,$\frac{0}{0}$, $\frac{\infty}{\infty}$, why $0.999...=1$ or even expressions of those terms combined as if that would make them defined. I have made this post to answer these questions once and for all, and I politely ask everyone to link this post to threads that are talking about this issue.
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[*]Firstly, the case of $0^0$. It is usually regarded that $0^0=1$, not because this works numerically but because it is convenient to define it this way. You will see the convenience of defining other undefined things later on in this post.

[*]What about $\frac{\infty}{\infty}$? The issue here is that $\infty$ isn't even rigorously defined in this expression. What exactly do we mean by $\infty$? Unless the example in question is put in context in a formal manner, then we say that $\frac{\infty}{\infty}$ is meaningless.

[*]What about $\frac{1}{0}$? Suppose that $x=\frac{1}{0}$. Then we would have $x\cdot 0=0=1$, absurd. A more rigorous treatment of the idea is that $\lim_{x\to0}\frac{1}{x}$ does not exist in the first place, although you will see why in a calculus course. So the point is that $\frac{1}{0}$ is undefined.

[*]What about if $0.99999...=1$? An article from brilliant has a good explanation. Alternatively, you can just use a geometric series. Notice that
\begin{align*}
\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{9}{10^n}&=9\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{10^n}=9\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\biggr(\frac{1}{10}\biggr)^n=9\biggr(\frac{\frac{1}{10}}{1-\frac{1}{10}}\biggr)=9\biggr(\frac{\frac{1}{10}}{\frac{9}{10}}\biggr)=9\biggr(\frac{1}{9}\biggr)=\boxed{1}
\end{align*}
[*]What about $\frac{0}{0}$? Usually this is considered to be an indeterminate form, but I would also wager that this is also undefined.
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Hopefully all of these issues and their corollaries are finally put to rest. Cheers.

2nd EDIT (6/14/22): Since I originally posted this, it has since blown up so I will try to add additional information per the request of users in the thread below.

INDETERMINATE VS UNDEFINED

What makes something indeterminate? As you can see above, there are many things that are indeterminate. While definitions might vary slightly, it is the consensus that the following definition holds: A mathematical expression is be said to be indeterminate if it is not definitively or precisely determined. So how does this make, say, something like $0/0$ indeterminate? In analysis (the theory behind calculus and beyond), limits involving an algebraic combination of functions in an independent variable may often be evaluated by replacing these functions by their limits. However, if the expression obtained after this substitution does not provide sufficient information to determine the original limit, then the expression is called an indeterminate form. For example, we could say that $0/0$ is an indeterminate form.

But we need to more specific, this is still ambiguous. An indeterminate form is a mathematical expression involving at most two of $0$, $1$ or $\infty$, obtained by applying the algebraic limit theorem (a theorem in analysis, look this up for details) in the process of attempting to determine a limit, which fails to restrict that limit to one specific value or infinity, and thus does not determine the limit being calculated. This is why it is called indeterminate. Some examples of indeterminate forms are
\[0/0, \infty/\infty, \infty-\infty, \infty \times 0\]etc etc. So what makes something undefined? In the broader scope, something being undefined refers to an expression which is not assigned an interpretation or a value. A function is said to be undefined for points outside its domain. For example, the function $f:\mathbb{R}^{+}\cup\{0\}\rightarrow\mathbb{R}$ given by the mapping $x\mapsto \sqrt{x}$ is undefined for $x<0$. On the other hand, $1/0$ is undefined because dividing by $0$ is not defined in arithmetic by definition. In other words, something is undefined when it is not defined in some mathematical context.

WHEN THE WATERS GET MUDDIED

So with this notion of indeterminate and undefined, things get convoluted. First of all, just because something is indeterminate does not mean it is not undefined. For example $0/0$ is considered both indeterminate and undefined (but in the context of a limit then it is considered in indeterminate form). Additionally, this notion of something being undefined also means that we can define it in some way. To rephrase, this means that technically, we can make something that is undefined to something that is defined as long as we define it. I'll show you what I mean.

One example of making something undefined into something defined is the extended real number line, which we define as
\[\overline{\mathbb{R}}=\mathbb{R}\cup \{-\infty,+\infty\}.\]So instead of treating infinity as an idea, we define infinity (positively and negatively, mind you) as actual numbers in the reals. The advantage of doing this is for two reasons. The first is because we can turn this thing into a totally ordered set. Specifically, we can let $-\infty\le a\le \infty$ for each $a\in\overline{\mathbb{R}}$ which means that via this order topology each subset has an infimum and supremum and $\overline{\mathbb{R}}$ is therefore compact. While this is nice from an analytic standpoint, extending the reals in this way can allow for interesting arithmetic! In $\overline{\mathbb{R}}$ it is perfectly OK to say that,
\begin{align*}
a + \infty = \infty + a & = \infty, & a & \neq -\infty \\
a - \infty = -\infty + a & = -\infty, & a & \neq \infty \\
a \cdot (\pm\infty) = \pm\infty \cdot a & = \pm\infty, & a & \in (0, +\infty] \\
a \cdot (\pm\infty) = \pm\infty \cdot a & = \mp\infty, & a & \in [-\infty, 0) \\
\frac{a}{\pm\infty} & = 0, & a & \in \mathbb{R} \\
\frac{\pm\infty}{a} & = \pm\infty, & a & \in (0, +\infty) \\
\frac{\pm\infty}{a} & = \mp\infty, & a & \in (-\infty, 0).
\end{align*}So addition, multiplication, and division are all defined nicely. However, notice that we have some indeterminate forms here which are also undefined,
\[\infty-\infty,\frac{\pm\infty}{\pm\infty},\frac{\pm\infty}{0},0\cdot \pm\infty.\]So while we define certain things, we also left others undefined/indeterminate in the process! However, in the context of measure theory it is common to define $\infty \times 0=0$ as greenturtle3141 noted below. I encourage to reread what he wrote, it's great stuff! As you may notice, though, dividing by $0$ is undefined still! Is there a place where it isn't? Kind of. To do this, we can extend the complex numbers! More formally, we can define this extension as
\[\mathbb{C}^*=\mathbb{C}\cup\{\tilde{\infty}\}\]which we call the Riemann Sphere (it actually forms a sphere, pretty cool right?). As a note, $\tilde{\infty}$ means complex infinity, since we are in the complex plane now. Here's the catch: division by $0$ is allowed here! In fact, we have
\[\frac{z}{0}=\tilde{\infty},\frac{z}{\tilde{\infty}}=0.\]where $\tilde{\infty}/\tilde{\infty}$ and $0/0$ are left undefined. We also have
\begin{align*}
z+\tilde{\infty}=\tilde{\infty}, \forall z\ne -\infty\\
z\times \tilde{\infty}=\tilde{\infty}, \forall z\ne 0
\end{align*}Furthermore, we actually have some nice properties with multiplication that we didn't have before. In $\mathbb{C}^*$ it holds that
\[\tilde{\infty}\times \tilde{\infty}=\tilde{\infty}\]but $\tilde{\infty}-\tilde{\infty}$ and $0\times \tilde{\infty}$ are left as undefined (unless there is an explicit need to change that somehow). One could define the projectively extended reals as we did with $\mathbb{C}^*$, by defining them as
\[{\widehat {\mathbb {R} }}=\mathbb {R} \cup \{\infty \}.\]They behave in a similar way to the Riemann Sphere, with division by $0$ also being allowed with the same indeterminate forms (in addition to some other ones).
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k i Marathon Threads
LauraZed   0
Jul 2, 2019
Due to excessive spam and inappropriate posts, we have locked the Prealgebra and Beginning Algebra threads.

We will either unlock these threads once we've cleaned them up or start new ones, but for now, do not start new marathon threads for these subjects. Any new marathon threads started while this announcement is up will be immediately deleted.
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k i Basic Forum Rules and Info (Read before posting)
jellymoop   368
N May 16, 2018 by harry1234
f (Reminder: Do not post Alcumus or class homework questions on this forum. Instructions below.) f
Welcome to the Middle School Math Forum! Please take a moment to familiarize yourself with the rules.

Overview:
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USAMO Grading
AdityaDwivedi   1
N 12 minutes ago by cowstalker
Hello,

I was wondering how USAMO grading works. For one of my solutions, I kinda generalized a part of my solution cause I assumed that the reader would be able to follow but idk if it’ll drop my score from a 7 to a 5 or 6. So how much detail to I rlly need to include to get full points?
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Red Mop Chances
imagien_bad   31
N 14 minutes ago by hashbrown2009
What are my chances of making red mop with a 35 on jmo?
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pikapika007   54
N 14 minutes ago by Gedagedigedagedago-
Source: USAJMO 2025/6
Let $S$ be a set of integers with the following properties:
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[*] $\{ 1, 2, \dots, 2025 \} \subseteq S$.
[*] If $a, b \in S$ and $\gcd(a, b) = 1$, then $ab \in S$.
[*] If for some $s \in S$, $s + 1$ is composite, then all positive divisors of $s + 1$ are in $S$.
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Prove that $S$ contains all positive integers.
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Scary Binomial Coefficient Sum
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N 24 minutes ago by atdaotlohbh
Source: USAMO 2025/5
Determine, with proof, all positive integers $k$ such that $$\frac{1}{n+1} \sum_{i=0}^n \binom{n}{i}^k$$is an integer for every positive integer $n.$
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Hello Community!

I am wondering what are the best mocks for state, with solutions
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Iowa, 38 on chapter, first in written and countdown and I’m just another person asking for nats chances.
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N Today at 1:52 AM by Mathematicalprodigy37
$\begin{tabular}{c|c|c|c|c}Username & Grade & Score \\ \hline
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Competition Day Mindset
weihou0   27
N Today at 1:45 AM by iwillregretthisnamelater
Hi! I'm taking the MATHCOUNTS State test on March 15. I know that there's probably not enough time left for significant skill improvement, so I wanted to ask about things I can do on competition day to help me be at my best. Most importantly, I'm curious about what mindset I should have during the test. Should I be confident and cocky, or more humble and negative? I'm just curious about what preparations prior to the test help the most. Thanks!
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Spacepandamath13   2
N Today at 1:42 AM by mathelvin
What is the difference between PIE (Principle of Inclusion and Exclusion) and Complementary Counting?
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1/a+1/b+1/c=6/7 - some fun
236factorial   10
N Today at 1:36 AM by Jaxman8
If $\frac{1}{a}+\frac{1}{b}+\frac{1}{c}=\frac{6}{7}$, where a, b, and c are positive integers, what is the smallest value of a+b+c?
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236factorial   12
N Today at 12:41 AM by KF329
If there are a total of 951 hide tags on the basic forum, and 231 do not say "click to reveal hidden content". How many hide tags without the labelling "click to reveal hidden content" must be posted consecutively for the percentage of these hide tags to rise to 25%?

Please hide your answers :D
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Select from 1 foot
236factorial   6
N Today at 12:04 AM by DhruvJha
A point is randomly selected inside a rectangle with sides 2' and 3'. What is the probability that the point is more than 1' from every vertex of the rectangle? Use 3.14 for pi, and round your answer as a decimal to the nearest hundredth.
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AMC Strategy
AthenasEye   20
N Feb 1, 2017 by moonknight123
Hi AOPS,

I am taking the AMC 10 A, this year and I can usually score around 110-120. Since they changed the cut off this year. What is the strategy? What is the best way to make AIME and does the attempt 21 strategy still apply?
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Hi AOPS,

I am taking the AMC 10 A, this year and I can usually score around 110-120. Since they changed the cut off this year. What is the strategy? What is the best way to make AIME and does the attempt 21 strategy still apply?
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What about just solve all the problems you know how to do and leave the rest blank? That usually works out
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Yes @above, like I don't get what the point of all these 'strategies' are. In the end it's just math, and the only way to be good and get better at math is to do math. Not to do guess-21-questions-and-hope-for-the-best-to-make-AIME or whatever, but to legitimately solve math. I can see why the MAA decided to change the AIME cutoff rule, and it's for your own benefit. Instead of mindless algorithms to 'score well,' people now actually need to know how to DO math. In the end, you're going to look back and wonder, "Was it really worth it? I didn't learn anything from mindless strategies. I should have learned and done math when I had the chance." Who knows, you might actually do better (gasp) if you LEARN the math!
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What about just solve all the problems you know how to do and leave the rest blank? That usually works out

Usually works out for you, but considering only 2.5% of participants make it, it most likely does not usually work out :(
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What about just solve all the problems you know how to do and leave the rest blank? That usually works out

Usually works out for you, but considering only 2.5% of participants make it, it most likely does not usually work out :(

What i meant is that it works out better than guessing 21-x problems where you solved x :)

ok obviously where x < 21
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Not_a_Username wrote:
aiyer12 wrote:
What about just solve all the problems you know how to do and leave the rest blank? That usually works out

Usually works out for you, but considering only 2.5% of participants make it, it most likely does not usually work out :(

There's an old saying about how you need 10,000 hours to become an expert at a particular subject of interest. Indeed, this is true, however, with much less effort, you can still surpass the vast majority of test-takers. Instead of thinking about how you won't make the top percent, think about your results as a function of your effort, not intelligence. Hard work yields results. The more math you do, the better you get. Practice every day, set a schedule for yourself, motivate yourself. I assure you that you will get results if you put in the deserved effort.
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AthenasEye
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equinox145111
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@#7,
Life advice:

Math isn't just about making AIME. It's about achieving knowledge for yourself and becoming a more self-satisfied person with what you know.

If you are satisfied with yourself and your studying, you will achieve the results that you feel you deserve. If there's a 'ridiculous test' as you say, I'm sure that you will not be the only person to struggle, and scores will be scaled higher. If there is a hard problem, then you didn't study enough. That may sound harsh, but your results truly are a factor of your efforts.
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moonknight123
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shiningsunnyday
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Before the test:
  • No math the day before the test
  • Sleep well the night before, sleep about 1 hour earlier than usual, not too early as you can't fall asleep and not too late as you will panic trying to force yourself to fall asleep
  • Get homework out of the way and watch a movie or do something fun

Day of:
  • Don't get stressed for anything school-related (I've always called in sick on days of the AMC)
  • Eat a good breakfast - DON'T eat chocolate despite popular opinion on AoPS unless you can't get rid of the habit, fats and sugar take long to digest and won't help you get sharp, eat things like oatmeal, yogurt, BANANAS, eggs, juice, toast
  • Bring water, a clock, GRAPH PAPER
  • Try to poop in the morning, it helps get rid of the butterflies

During test:
  • Don't get stuck on one question, skip around and pick off the ones you can solve
  • Read each question at least twice and make sure you give what they want
  • Don't mis-bubble (bubbling in five answers at a time is a good idea)
  • Do a lot of sanity checks (i.e. does your answer make sense?)
  • Don't guess unless you have good reason to (there's no set cutoff so your job is to maximize our score and probability-wise only consider guessing when you can eliminate 2)

More important than all the above is developing a winning mindset. I have a blog post to write about this at some point. ;)
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randomdude10807
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Don't guess unless you have narrowed it down to 3 or less choices.
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Makorn
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shiningsunnyday wrote:
Before the test:
  • No math the day before the test
  • Sleep well the night before, sleep about 1 hour earlier than usual, not too early as you can't fall asleep and not too late as you will panic trying to force yourself to fall asleep
  • Get homework out of the way and watch a movie or do something fun
What if you have math finals the day before :o
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Dr4gon39
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AthenasEye wrote:
equinox145111 wrote:
Yes @above, like I don't get what the point of all these 'strategies' are. In the end it's just math, and the only way to be good and get better at math is to do math. Not to do guess-21-questions-and-hope-for-the-best-to-make-AIME or whatever, but to legitimately solve math. I can see why the MAA decided to change the AIME cutoff rule, and it's for your own benefit. Instead of mindless algorithms to 'score well,' people now actually need to know how to DO math. In the end, you're going to look back and wonder, "Was it really worth it? I didn't learn anything from mindless strategies. I should have learned and done math when I had the chance." Who knows, you might actually do better (gasp) if you LEARN the math!

I consistently score around the 120s, I was just wondering if there was a strategy in case of a ridiculous test or I come across something hard.

If you really practice hard enough beforehand then you really shouldnt encounter any sort of "ridiculous" test
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Emathmaster
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2015 AMC 10 B was a ridiculous test. It is impossible to finish the last 6 under the time limit even when the first 18 is very easy. (The cut-off is still 120 for 2015 10 B despite being one of the hardest tests. :noo: )
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ShadowQueenPeach
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For reference:
2016 AMC 10B top 2.5%: 110
2016 AMC 10A top 2.5%: 110
2015 AMC 10B top 2.5%: 120
2015 AMC 10A top 2.5%: 106.5
Then again, I have no idea if there are plans to change the difficulty based on the new cutoffs.
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always_correct
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#17 • 1 Y
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Oh, I feel a lot better about making AIME. What are the new cutoffs?
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equinox145111
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Top 2.5% I believe
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AthenasEye
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Trash
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Tbh i think the best strategy is to not worry about the cutoff and do the best you can...
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moonknight123
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