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k i Adding contests to the Contest Collections
dcouchman   1
N Apr 5, 2023 by v_Enhance
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k i Zero tolerance
ZetaX   49
N May 4, 2019 by NoDealsHere
Source: Use your common sense! (enough is enough)
Some users don't want to learn, some other simply ignore advises.
But please follow the following guideline:


To make it short: ALWAYS USE YOUR COMMON SENSE IF POSTING!
If you don't have common sense, don't post.


More specifically:

For new threads:


a) Good, meaningful title:
The title has to say what the problem is about in best way possible.
If that title occured already, it's definitely bad. And contest names aren't good either.
That's in fact a requirement for being able to search old problems.

Examples:
Bad titles:
- "Hard"/"Medium"/"Easy" (if you find it so cool how hard/easy it is, tell it in the post and use a title that tells us the problem)
- "Number Theory" (hey guy, guess why this forum's named that way¿ and is it the only such problem on earth¿)
- "Fibonacci" (there are millions of Fibonacci problems out there, all posted and named the same...)
- "Chinese TST 2003" (does this say anything about the problem¿)
Good titles:
- "On divisors of a³+2b³+4c³-6abc"
- "Number of solutions to x²+y²=6z²"
- "Fibonacci numbers are never squares"


b) Use search function:
Before posting a "new" problem spend at least two, better five, minutes to look if this problem was posted before. If it was, don't repost it. If you have anything important to say on topic, post it in one of the older threads.
If the thread is locked cause of this, use search function.

Update (by Amir Hossein). The best way to search for two keywords in AoPS is to input
[code]+"first keyword" +"second keyword"[/code]
so that any post containing both strings "first word" and "second form".


c) Good problem statement:
Some recent really bad post was:
[quote]$lim_{n\to 1}^{+\infty}\frac{1}{n}-lnn$[/quote]
It contains no question and no answer.
If you do this, too, you are on the best way to get your thread deleted. Write everything clearly, define where your variables come from (and define the "natural" numbers if used). Additionally read your post at least twice before submitting. After you sent it, read it again and use the Edit-Button if necessary to correct errors.


For answers to already existing threads:


d) Of any interest and with content:
Don't post things that are more trivial than completely obvious. For example, if the question is to solve $x^{3}+y^{3}=z^{3}$, do not answer with "$x=y=z=0$ is a solution" only. Either you post any kind of proof or at least something unexpected (like "$x=1337, y=481, z=42$ is the smallest solution). Someone that does not see that $x=y=z=0$ is a solution of the above without your post is completely wrong here, this is an IMO-level forum.
Similar, posting "I have solved this problem" but not posting anything else is not welcome; it even looks that you just want to show off what a genius you are.

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Like c) for new threads, check your solutions at least twice for mistakes. And after sending, read it again and use the Edit-Button if necessary to correct errors.



To repeat it: ALWAYS USE YOUR COMMON SENSE IF POSTING!


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The above rules will be applied from next monday (5. march of 2007).
Feel free to discuss on this here.
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Feb 27, 2007
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Putnam 2013 A5
Kent Merryfield   10
N 9 minutes ago by blackbluecar
For $m\ge 3,$ a list of $\binom m3$ real numbers $a_{ijk}$ $(1\le i<j<k\le m)$ is said to be area definite for $\mathbb{R}^n$ if the inequality \[\sum_{1\le i<j<k\le m}a_{ijk}\cdot\text{Area}(\triangle A_iA_jA_k)\ge0\] holds for every choice of $m$ points $A_1,\dots,A_m$ in $\mathbb{R}^n.$ For example, the list of four numbers $a_{123}=a_{124}=a_{134}=1, a_{234}=-1$ is area definite for $\mathbb{R}^2.$ Prove that if a list of $\binom m3$ numbers is area definite for $\mathbb{R}^2,$ then it is area definite for $\mathbb{R}^3.$
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Kent Merryfield
Dec 9, 2013
blackbluecar
9 minutes ago
D1041 : A generalisation of Tchebychef's Inequality
Dattier   0
39 minutes ago
Source: les dattes à Dattier
Let $f,g \in C^1([0,1])$.

Is it true that : $\min(|f'|)\times \min(|g'|) \leq 12\times \left|\int_0^1f(t)\times g(t) \text{d}t -\int_0^1f(t) \text{d}t\times \int_0^1g(t)\text{d}t\right| \leq \max(|f'|)\times \max(|g'|)$?
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39 minutes ago
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Reducing the exponents for good
RobertRogo   3
N an hour ago by RobertRogo
Source: The national Algebra contest (Romania), 2025, Problem 3/Abstract Algebra (a bit generalized)
Let $A$ be a ring with unity such that for every $x \in A$ there exist $t_x, n_x \in \mathbb{N}^*$ such that $x^{t_x+n_x}=x^{n_x}$. Prove that
a) If $t_x \cdot 1 \in U(A), \forall x \in A$ then $x^{t_x+1}=x, \forall x \in A$
b) If there is an $x \in A$ such that $t_x \cdot 1 \notin U(A)$ then the result from a) may no longer hold.

Authors: Laurențiu Panaitopol, Dorel Miheț, Mihai Opincariu, me, Filip Munteanu
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an hour ago
USAMO 2003 Problem 1
MithsApprentice   71
N 2 hours ago by cubres
Prove that for every positive integer $n$ there exists an $n$-digit number divisible by $5^n$ all of whose digits are odd.
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IMO Genre Predictions
ohiorizzler1434   76
N 2 hours ago by aidan0626
Everybody, with IMO upcoming, what are you predictions for the problem genres?


Personally I predict: predict
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IMO ShortList 2008, Number Theory problem 2
April   40
N 2 hours ago by ezpotd
Source: IMO ShortList 2008, Number Theory problem 2, German TST 2, P2, 2009
Let $ a_1$, $ a_2$, $ \ldots$, $ a_n$ be distinct positive integers, $ n\ge 3$. Prove that there exist distinct indices $ i$ and $ j$ such that $ a_i + a_j$ does not divide any of the numbers $ 3a_1$, $ 3a_2$, $ \ldots$, $ 3a_n$.

Proposed by Mohsen Jamaali, Iran
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April
Jul 9, 2009
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2 hours ago
A weird problem
jayme   2
N 2 hours ago by lolsamo
Dear Mathlinkers,

1. ABC a triangle
2. 0 the circumcircle
3. I the incenter
4. 1 a circle passing througn B and C
5. X, Y the second points of intersection of 1 wrt BI, CI
6. 2 the circumcircle of the triangle XYI
7. M, N the symetrics of B, C wrt XY.

Question : if 2 is tangent to 0 then, 2 is tangent to MN.

Sincerely
Jean-Louis
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jayme
Today at 6:52 AM
lolsamo
2 hours ago
Channel name changed
Plane_geometry_youtuber   10
N 2 hours ago by Yiyj
Hi,

Due to the search handle issue in youtube. My channel is renamed to Olympiad Geometry Club. And the new link is as following:

https://www.youtube.com/@OlympiadGeometryClub

Recently I introduced the concept of harmonic bundle. I will move on to the conjugate median soon. In the future, I will discuss more than a thousand theorems on plane geometry and hopefully it can help to the students preparing for the Olympiad competition.

Please share this to the people may need it.

Thank you!
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Yesterday at 9:31 PM
Yiyj
2 hours ago
If \(\prod_{i=1}^{n} (x + r_i) = \sum_{k=0}^{n} a_k x^k\), show that \[ \sum_{i=
Martin.s   1
N 3 hours ago by alexheinis
If \(\prod_{i=1}^{n} (x + r_i) \equiv \sum_{j=0}^{n} a_j x^{n-i}\), show that
\[
\sum_{i=1}^{n} \tan^{-1} r_i = \tan^{-1} \frac{a_1 - a_3 + a_5 - \cdots}{a_0 - a_2 + a_4 - \cdots}
\]and
\[
\sum_{i=1}^{n} \tanh^{-1} r_i = \tanh^{-1} \frac{a_1 + a_3 + a_5 + \cdots}{a_0 + a_2 + a_4 + \cdots}.
\]
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Martin.s
Yesterday at 6:43 PM
alexheinis
3 hours ago
Ducks can play games now apparently
MortemEtInteritum   35
N 4 hours ago by pi271828
Source: USA TST(ST) 2020 #1
Let $a$, $b$, $c$ be fixed positive integers. There are $a+b+c$ ducks sitting in a
circle, one behind the other. Each duck picks either rock, paper, or scissors, with $a$ ducks
picking rock, $b$ ducks picking paper, and $c$ ducks picking scissors.
A move consists of an operation of one of the following three forms:

[list]
[*] If a duck picking rock sits behind a duck picking scissors, they switch places.
[*] If a duck picking paper sits behind a duck picking rock, they switch places.
[*] If a duck picking scissors sits behind a duck picking paper, they switch places.
[/list]
Determine, in terms of $a$, $b$, and $c$, the maximum number of moves which could take
place, over all possible initial configurations.
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MortemEtInteritum
Nov 16, 2020
pi271828
4 hours ago
2017 IGO Advanced P3
bgn   18
N 4 hours ago by Circumcircle
Source: 4th Iranian Geometry Olympiad (Advanced) P3
Let $O$ be the circumcenter of triangle $ABC$. Line $CO$ intersects the altitude from $A$ at point $K$. Let $P,M$ be the midpoints of $AK$, $AC$ respectively. If $PO$ intersects $BC$ at $Y$, and the circumcircle of triangle $BCM$ meets $AB$ at $X$, prove that $BXOY$ is cyclic.

Proposed by Ali Daeinabi - Hamid Pardazi
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bgn
Sep 15, 2017
Circumcircle
4 hours ago
Own made functional equation
JARP091   1
N 5 hours ago by JARP091
Source: Own (Maybe?)
\[
\text{Find all functions } f : \mathbb{R} \to \mathbb{R} \text{ such that:} \\
f(a^4 + a^2b^2 + b^4) = f\left((a^2 - f(ab) + b^2)(a^2 + f(ab) + b^2)\right)
\]
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JARP091
May 31, 2025
JARP091
5 hours ago
Euler line of incircle touching points /Reposted/
Eagle116   6
N 5 hours ago by pigeon123
Let $ABC$ be a triangle with incentre $I$ and circumcentre $O$. Let $D,E,F$ be the touchpoints of the incircle with $BC$, $CA$, $AB$ respectively. Prove that $OI$ is the Euler line of $\vartriangle DEF$.
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Eagle116
Apr 19, 2025
pigeon123
5 hours ago
Parallel lines on a rhombus
buratinogigle   1
N 5 hours ago by Giabach298
Source: Own, Entrance Exam for Grade 10 Admission, HSGS 2025
Given the rhombus $ABCD$ with its incircle $\omega$. Let $E$ and $F$ be the points of tangency of $\omega$ with $AB$ and $AC$ respectively. On the edges $CB$ and $CD$, take points $G$ and $H$ such that $GH$ is tangent to $\omega$ at $P$. Suppose $Q$ is the intersection point of the lines $EG$ and $FH$. Prove that two lines $AP$ and $CQ$ are parallel or coincide.
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buratinogigle
Today at 3:17 PM
Giabach298
5 hours ago
Subset Ordered Pairs of {1, 2, ..., 10}
ahaanomegas   11
N May 10, 2025 by cappucher
Source: Putnam 1990 A6
If $X$ is a finite set, let $X$ denote the number of elements in $X$. Call an ordered pair $(S,T)$ of subsets of $ \{ 1, 2, \cdots, n \} $ $ \emph {admissible} $ if $ s > |T| $ for each $ s \in S $, and $ t > |S| $ for each $ t \in T $. How many admissible ordered pairs of subsets $ \{ 1, 2, \cdots, 10 \} $ are there? Prove your answer.
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ahaanomegas
Jul 12, 2013
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May 10, 2025
Subset Ordered Pairs of {1, 2, ..., 10}
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If $X$ is a finite set, let $X$ denote the number of elements in $X$. Call an ordered pair $(S,T)$ of subsets of $ \{ 1, 2, \cdots, n \} $ $ \emph {admissible} $ if $ s > |T| $ for each $ s \in S $, and $ t > |S| $ for each $ t \in T $. How many admissible ordered pairs of subsets $ \{ 1, 2, \cdots, 10 \} $ are there? Prove your answer.
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Here are some past discussions of this problem:
http://www.artofproblemsolving.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=46819&hilit=Putnam+1990
http://www.artofproblemsolving.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=515970&hilit=Putnam+1990
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I suppose this is the official thread? It's not in the putnam collection, nor is the rest of the 1990 putnam...

The answer is $F_{2n+2}$ where $(F_n)$ denotes the Fibonacci sequence, with $F_1=F_2=1$ and $F_k=F_{k-1}+F_{k-2}$. For some $n$, by summing over $|A|=a$ and $|B|=b$, it is clear that there are
$$\sum_{a\geq 0}\sum_{b\geq 0}\binom{n-a}{b}\binom{n-b}{a}=a_n$$ways to choose $A$ and $B$. Thus consider the formal series
$$A(x)=\sum_{n\geq 0}a_nx^n=\sum_{n\geq 0}\sum{a\geq 0}\sum_{b\geq 0}\binom{n-b}{a}\binom{n-a}{b}x^n.$$Then, we have
\begin{align*}
    A(x)&=\sum_{a\geq 0}\sum_{b\geq 0}\sum_{n\geq a+b}\binom{n-b}{a}\binom{n-a}{b}x^n\\
    &=\sum_{a\geq 0}\sum_{b\geq 0}\sum_{m\geq 0}\binom{m+a}{a}\binom{m+b}{b}x^{m+a+b}\\
    &=\sum_{m\geq 0}x^m\left(\sum_{a\geq 0}\binom{m+a}{a}x^a\right)^2\\
    &=\sum_{m\geq 0}\frac{x^m}{(1-x)^{2m+2}}\\
    &=\frac{\frac{1}{(1-x)^2}}{1-\frac{x}{(1-x)^2}}=\frac{1}{(1-x)^2-x}\\
    &=\frac{1}{1-3x+x^2}=\frac{1}{x\sqrt{5}}\left(\frac{1}{1-x\alpha}-\frac{1}{1-x\beta}\right)
\end{align*}where $\alpha=\tfrac{3+\sqrt{5}}{2}$ and $\beta=\tfrac{3-\sqrt{5}}{2}$ are the roots of $x^2-3x+1=0$. By the geometric series formula it follows that $a_n=\tfrac{1}{\sqrt{5}}(\alpha^{n+1}-\beta^{n+1})$.
Finally, note that $\alpha=(\tfrac{1+\sqrt{5}}{2})^2$ and $\beta=(\tfrac{1-\sqrt{5}}{2})^2$, so we have
$$a_n=\frac{1}{\sqrt{5}}(\alpha^{n+1}-\beta^{n+1})=\frac{1}{\sqrt{5}}\left(\left(\frac{1+\sqrt{5}}{2}\right)^{2n+2}-\left(\frac{1-\sqrt{5}}{2}\right)^{2n+2}\right)=F_{2n+2}$$as desired. $\blacksquare$
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The number in question is precisely equal to $$\sum_{i \geq 0}\sum_{j \geq 0}{n-i \choose j}{n-j \choose i}.$$We sum this by parts according to $i+j = k$. Eaach of these parts is equal to $$ \sum_{i+j = k} {n-i \choose n-k}{n-j \choose n-k} = \sum_{p+q=2n-k} {p \choose n-k}{q \choose n-k}.$$Here $p=n-i$ and $q = n-j$. This is just the $2n-k$ coefficient in $$f(x) = \left(\sum_{p \geq 0} {p \choose n-k} x^p\right)^2 = \frac{x^{2n-2k}}{(1-x)^{2n-2k+2}}.$$Expanding out the series for this, the desired coefficient is ${2n-k+1 \choose k}$. Hence, the answer is $$\sum_{k=0}^{2n} {2n-k+1 \choose k} = \sum_{k=0}^{2n+1} {2n+1-k \choose k} = F_{2n+2}.$$
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If the cardinality of $A$ and $B$ are $i$ and $j$ respectively, we find we need to choose $i$ numbers from $(j + 1, \dots, n)$ numbers to fill set $A$ and $j$ numbers from $(i + 1, \dots, n)$ numbers to fill set $B$. Thus we have $\binom{n-i}{j}$ choices for $A$ and $\binom{n-j}{i}$ choices for $B$. Note we have the added restriction that $i + j \leq n$, else the binomial coefficients are undefined.
\begin{align*}
F(n) = \sum_{i + j \leq n} \binom{n-i}{j} \cdot \binom{n-j}{i}
\end{align*}Then we will use snake oil. The idea is to let $i + j + k = n$, and consider the generating function,
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A(X) = \sum_{n \geq 0} F(n)X^n
\end{align*}Now by substituting $i +j + k = n$ we find,
\begin{align*}
A(X) = \sum_{k \geq 0} \sum_{i \geq 0} \sum_{j \geq 0} \binom{k+j}{j} \binom{k+i}{i} X^{i+j+k}
\end{align*}Now we find,
\begin{align*}
A(X) = \sum_{k \geq 0} \left( \sum_{i \geq 0} \binom{k+i}{i} X^i \right)^2 X^k
\end{align*}This then simplifies to,
\begin{align*}
A(X) = \sum_{k \geq 0} \frac{X^k}{(1-X)^{2k+2}}
\end{align*}Which in turn becomes,
\begin{align*}
A(X) = \frac{\frac{1}{(1-X)^2}}{1-\frac{X}{(1-X)^2}} &= \frac{1}{(1-X)^2 - X}\\
&= \frac{1}{X^2 - 3X + 1}\\
&= \frac{1}{X\sqrt{5}} \cdot  \left( \frac{1}{(1-\alpha X)} - \frac{1}{(1-\beta X)} \right)
\end{align*}where we take $\alpha = \frac{3+\sqrt{5}}{2}$ and $\beta = \frac{3 - \sqrt{5}}{2}$. Then we can use geometric series to find,
\begin{align*}
A(X) &= \frac{1}{X\sqrt{5}} \cdot \left( \left(1 + \alpha X + \alpha^2 X^2 + \dots \right) - \left(1 + \beta X + \beta^2 X^2 + \dots \right) \right)\\
&= \frac{1}{\sqrt{5}} \cdot \left( (\alpha - \beta) + (\alpha^2 - \beta^2)X + (\alpha^3 - \beta^3)X^2 \dots \right)
\end{align*}Now we want to find the coefficient of $X^n$. Thus the coefficient of $X^n$ is,
\begin{align*}
F(n) = \frac{1}{\sqrt{5}} \cdot (\alpha^{n+1} - \beta^{n})
\end{align*}
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Let $|A| = a$ and $|B| = b$. Define the generating function $A(x) = \sum_{n \ge 0} a_nx^n$, where $a_n$ is the number of admissible pairs. This function can also be expressed as
\begin{align*}
A(x) &= \sum_{n \ge 0} \sum_{a \ge 0} \sum_{b \ge 0} \binom{n-a}{b} \binom{n-b}{a} x^n \\
&= \sum_{a \ge 0} \sum_{b \ge 0} \binom{n-a}{b} \left(\frac{x}{1-x}\right)^a x^b \cdot \frac{1}{1-x} \\
&= \frac{(1+x)^n}{1-x} \cdot \frac{1}{1 - \frac{x}{1-x^2}} \\
&= \frac{(1+x)^{a+1}}{1-x-x^2} \\
&= \sum_{n \ge 0} \sum_{k \ge 0} F_{k+1} \binom{n+1}{k+1} x^n \\
&= \frac{1}{(1-x)^2} \cdot \sum_{k \ge 0} F_{k+1} \left(\frac{x}{1-x}\right)^k \\
&= \frac{1}{(1-x)^2} \cdot \frac{1}{1 - \frac{x}{1-x} - \left(\frac{x}{1-x}\right)^2} \\
&= \frac{1}{1-3x+x^2} \\
&= \sum_{n \ge 0} \boxed{F_{2n+2}} \cdot x^n. \quad \blacksquare
\end{align*}
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Denote $a=|S|$, $b=|T|$.

Since $s>b$ for each $s$$\in$$S$, $S$ is a subset of $\{b+1, ..., n\}$ ($\emptyset$ if $b=n$).
Answer the following questions:
$b+1$$\in$$S?, ..., n$$\in$$S?$ These are $n-b$ questions in total.
Write a 2 for each "yes" and a 1 for each "no".
Then you have written $a$ 2's and $n-a-b$ 1's.

Similarly, answer the following questions:
$a+1$$\in$$T?, ..., n$$\in$$T?$ These are $n-a$ questions in total.
Write a 2 for each "yes" and a 1 for each "no".
Then you have written $b$ 2's and $n-a-b$ 1's.

You have two strings of 1's and 2's, concatenate the first string, a 1 as separator, and the second string.
This gives a total of $a+b$ 2's and $2(n-a-b)+1$ 1's, which sum to $2n+1$.
Therefore the amount is $F_{2n+2}$.

Conversely, any 1,2-string which sum to $2n+1$ must have an odd number of 1's, and the middle 1 is the separator.
Therefore the value of $a$ and $b$ can be determined, and the two sets can be uniquely recovered.
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The sum we want is \[\sum_{a\ge 0}\sum_{b\ge 0}\binom{n-b}a\binom{n-a}b=\sum_{a\ge 0}\sum_{b\ge 0}\binom{n-b}{n-a-b}\binom{n-a}{n-a-b}=\sum_{k\ge 0}\sum_{a+b=k}\binom{n-b}{n-k}\binom{n-a}{n-k}.\]Now we claim \[\sum_{a+b=k}\binom am\binom bn=\binom{k+1}{m+n+1}.\]This follows from \[\sum_{k\ge 0}\sum_{a+b=k}\binom am\binom bnx^k=\left(\sum_{a\ge 0}\binom amx^a\right)\left(\sum_{b\ge 0}\binom bnx^b\right)=\frac{x^m}{(1-x)^{m+1}}\cdot\frac{x^n}{(1-x)^{n+1}}=\frac{x^{m+n}}{(1-x)^{m+n+2}}=\sum_{c\ge 0}\binom{c+1}{m+n+1}x^c.\]Thus we want \[\sum_{k\ge 0}\binom{2n-k+1}{2n-2k+1}=\sum_{k\ge 0}\binom{2n-k+1}k.\]Now we claim \[\sum_{k\ge 0}\binom{a-k}k=F_{a+1}.\]This is because \[\sum_{a\ge 0}\sum_{k\ge 0}\binom{a-k}kx^a=\sum_{k\ge 0}\sum_{a\ge 0}\binom{a-k}kx^a=\sum_{k\ge 0}\frac{x^{2k}}{(1-x)^{k+1}}=\frac1{1-x}\left(\frac1{1-\frac{x^2}{1-x}}\right)=\frac1{1-x-x^2}=\sum_{a\ge 0}F_{a+1}x^a.\]Thus the answer is $F_{2n+2}$.
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A related problem (not too closely, but anyway related).
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It can be seen that the answer is $F_{2n + 2}$ by using partial fractions and then comparing with the formula of Fibonacci numbers.
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We claim the answer is $\boxed{F_{2n + 2}}$, where $F_{n}$ denotes the $n$th Fibonacci number.

Lemma 1: The final answer can be represented with the sum

\[S_{n} = \sum_{A \geq 0}\sum_{B \geq 0} \binom{n - B}{A} \binom{n - A}{B}\]
proof: We will prove this by fixing $|A|$ and $|B|$, deriving a closed form for this given $|A|$ and $|B|$, and sum over all possible pairs of $|A|$ and $|B|$. Note that for valid elements of set $A$, we must choose $A$ elements that are NOT in the range $1$ to $B$; thus, there are $\binom{n - B}{A}$ combinations. The same logic holds for choosing elements from set $B$. Since these selections are independent, we multiply these to obtain the result

\[\binom{n - B}{A}\binom{n - A}{B}\]
Summing over all possibilities yields our desired result.

To compute $S_{n}$, we use generating functions. Define $F(x)$ to be

\[F(x) = \sum_{n \geq 0} S_{n} x^n \]
Equivalently,

\[F(x) = \sum_{n \geq 0} \sum_{A \geq 0}\sum_{B \geq 0} \binom{n - B}{A} \binom{n - A}{B} x^n\]
We rearrange the summations and shift the indexing of the sum by $A + B$ to obtain

\[F(x) = \sum_{A \geq 0} \sum_{B \geq 0}\sum_{n \geq 0} \binom{n + A}{A} \binom{n + B}{B} x^{A + B + n}\]
The rest of the problem is a matter of algebra and identifying various well known generating functions:

\[F(x) = \sum_{n \geq 0} x^{n} \sum_{B \geq 0} \binom{n + B}{B} x^{B} \sum_{A \geq 0} \binom{n + A}{A} x^{A}\]\[F(x) = \sum_{n \geq 0} x^{n} \left( \sum_{A \geq 0} \binom{n + A}{A} x^{A} \right)^2 \]\[F(x) = \sum_{n \geq 0} x^{n} \left( \frac{1}{(1 - x)^{n + 1}} \right)^2 \]\[F(x) = \frac{1}{(1 - x)^2} \sum_{n \geq 0} \left( \frac{x}{(1 - x)^{2}} \right)^n \]
We now use the formula for the geometric series:

\[F(x) = \frac{1}{(1 - x)^2} \cdot \frac{1}{1 - \frac{x}{(1 - x)^2}} \]\[F(x) =  \frac{1}{(1 - x)^2 -x} = \frac{1}{x^2 - 3x + 1} \]
Define $\alpha = \frac{3 + \sqrt{5}}{2} = \left(\frac{1 + \sqrt{5}}{2}\right)^2$ and $\beta = \frac{3 - \sqrt{5}}{2} = \left(\frac{1 - \sqrt{5}}{2}\right)^2$; these are the roots of the quadratic in the denominator of $F(x)$. Then $F(x)$ can be written as

\[F(x) = \frac{1}{\sqrt{5}} \left(\frac{1}{x - \alpha} - \frac{1}{x - \beta}\right)\]\[F(x) = \sum_{n \geq 0} \frac{1}{x\sqrt{5}} \left(\frac{1}{1 - \frac{\alpha}{x}} - \frac{1}{1 - \frac{\beta}{x}}\right) x^n\]
However, since the polynomial's coefficients are symmetric, we can replace $\frac{1}{x}$ with $x$:

\[F(x) = \sum_{n \geq 0} \frac{1}{x\sqrt{5}} \left(\frac{1}{1 - x \alpha} - \frac{1}{1 - x \beta}\right) x^n\]\[F(x) = \sum_{n \geq 0} \frac{1}{\sqrt{5}} \left( \alpha^{n + 1} + \beta^{n + 1} \right) x^n\]\[F(x) = \sum_{n \geq 0} \frac{1}{\sqrt{5}} \left( \left(\left(\frac{1 + \sqrt{5}}{2}\right)^2\right)^{n + 1} + \left(\left(\frac{1 - \sqrt{5}}{2}\right)^2\right)^{n + 1} \right) x^n\]\[F(x) = \sum_{n \geq 0} \frac{1}{\sqrt{5}} \left( \left(\frac{1 + \sqrt{5}}{2}\right)^{2n + 2} + \left(\frac{1 - \sqrt{5}}{2}\right)^{2n + 2} \right) x^n\]
\[F(x) = \sum_{n \geq 0} F_{2n + 2} x^n\]
Corresponding coefficients of the final generating function to the original function proves that $S_n = F_{2n + 2}$, as desired.
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