another post
by EpicSkills32, Oct 28, 2013, 4:11 AM
Note: This was all originally in a pm to B-t about some stuff, and I just copied/pasted stuff. I took quite a bit out, cuz it's kinda unrelated.
Here I'm exploring a few religions:
Hinduism: End-goal= "" = " a state of changeless bliss". Well that sounds pretty good. What's the price tag?
-how to get there=. Karma is a big topic in Hinduism. I'm sure you know what that is, so I won't insult your intelligence. So basically, you must complete a life with everything balanced. You must have lived a good, thorough life of good deeds. If you didn't, well you get to try again. You will be reincarnated! A second chance. Eventually, after countless(or maybe 1-2) reincarnations, you will have achieved your goal of moksha. However, being reincarnated might result in becoming a cow, a frog, a termite(?!?)...etc. In Hinduism, . You might not ever get there.
Buddhism: End-goal= = a state of oblivion, where your soul and spirit are unaware of the pains of life: "ultimate enlightenment".
-how to get there= Why is there suffering in the world? According to Buddhism, it's because of all our desires and wants. To achieve this enlightenment, we must lay down all our desires, and seek true wisdom and understanding. That sounds like a noble thing to do and seek. However, some of this self denial seems pretty intense. What if nirvana is all made up? Self-denial for nothing doesn't sound too attractive. Also, Buddhism's history: Founded by a gentleman by the name of Siddhārtha Gautama(who later became known as Buddha). He was originally a Hindu, but the idea of endless reincarnations if you didn't succeed didn't sound good enough for him. He thought that the true meaning of life couldn't come down to an infinite number of chances to succeed. He thought about the suffering in the world, and came to the conclusion that humans are imperfect beings, bringing about their own sufferings by their own foolish desires and pleasures. He decided that endless reincarnation couldn't be what life amounted to. He taught that if you didn't succeed, you would be reincarnated not entirely new, but sort of affected by the previous life. "Reincarnation" was more of a "transition". He described it in this way. Instead of lighting candles(lives) individually with a lighter, you would light the first one(first life), and then use that candle to light the second one. Then you would light the third one with the second, and so on. Self denial still sounds really intimidating. And nirvana, a state of oblivion? I'm not sure if I want to spend eternity like that.
Islam: End goal- On the surface, it sounds like a thing sort of like a Christian's heaven, but it is actually radically different. Besides being a paradise, there is this thing with 72 virgins, which I won't go into. You could look it up, but it's kinda weird.
-how to get there= Are we starting to see a pattern?
There is a lot in the Koran about what to do, and I won't list everything here. I'm pretty sure you've heard of a lot of them, and many are easily accessible. It boils down to . Unlike Buddhism and Hinduism however, there (provided Islam is correct). If you die in a Holy War, or kill someone who is not a Muslim in the name of Islam, YOU WILL MAKE IT TO PARADISE!!! WOOHOOOO. But you must kill, not in self-defense or in service for your country. Well actually, it could be in service to your country if it's a Muslim country. But still, I don't really want to kill anyone to get myself to heaven(or on the other hand, die). If I am really concerned about others, I might try to tell them about how to get to heaven, not kill them to get me to heaven(paradise).
btw
Christianity: End goal-
-how to get there= say what? WAT? I won't say it again, but there it is. Christianity doesn't emphasize works or good deeds to get you to paradise. ( "heaven" is actually complicated, because it is pretty much eternal life on earth, but I will talk more about "heaven" in Christianity some other time.) All the other religions we looked at require much effort and even pain to get us to our end-goal, but this religion is sealed by a one time act. As I said before, I will go into salvation more in-depth at a later time, so...yeah).
So I pray that this "god" you believe in will come and touch your heart. I don't know what you believe this "god" is and does, but I hope that "god" talks to you. You're smart, I'm sure you'll realize as you get older what this is all about. I'm pretty sure you understand that not everyone can make it into a happy afterlife if there is so much "badness" in the world. Our lives must have meaning if there is a god, afterlife, and right and wrong.
Here I'm exploring a few religions:
Hinduism: End-goal= "" = " a state of changeless bliss". Well that sounds pretty good. What's the price tag?
-how to get there=. Karma is a big topic in Hinduism. I'm sure you know what that is, so I won't insult your intelligence. So basically, you must complete a life with everything balanced. You must have lived a good, thorough life of good deeds. If you didn't, well you get to try again. You will be reincarnated! A second chance. Eventually, after countless(or maybe 1-2) reincarnations, you will have achieved your goal of moksha. However, being reincarnated might result in becoming a cow, a frog, a termite(?!?)...etc. In Hinduism, . You might not ever get there.
Buddhism: End-goal= = a state of oblivion, where your soul and spirit are unaware of the pains of life: "ultimate enlightenment".
-how to get there= Why is there suffering in the world? According to Buddhism, it's because of all our desires and wants. To achieve this enlightenment, we must lay down all our desires, and seek true wisdom and understanding. That sounds like a noble thing to do and seek. However, some of this self denial seems pretty intense. What if nirvana is all made up? Self-denial for nothing doesn't sound too attractive. Also, Buddhism's history: Founded by a gentleman by the name of Siddhārtha Gautama(who later became known as Buddha). He was originally a Hindu, but the idea of endless reincarnations if you didn't succeed didn't sound good enough for him. He thought that the true meaning of life couldn't come down to an infinite number of chances to succeed. He thought about the suffering in the world, and came to the conclusion that humans are imperfect beings, bringing about their own sufferings by their own foolish desires and pleasures. He decided that endless reincarnation couldn't be what life amounted to. He taught that if you didn't succeed, you would be reincarnated not entirely new, but sort of affected by the previous life. "Reincarnation" was more of a "transition". He described it in this way. Instead of lighting candles(lives) individually with a lighter, you would light the first one(first life), and then use that candle to light the second one. Then you would light the third one with the second, and so on. Self denial still sounds really intimidating. And nirvana, a state of oblivion? I'm not sure if I want to spend eternity like that.
Islam: End goal- On the surface, it sounds like a thing sort of like a Christian's heaven, but it is actually radically different. Besides being a paradise, there is this thing with 72 virgins, which I won't go into. You could look it up, but it's kinda weird.
-how to get there= Are we starting to see a pattern?
There is a lot in the Koran about what to do, and I won't list everything here. I'm pretty sure you've heard of a lot of them, and many are easily accessible. It boils down to . Unlike Buddhism and Hinduism however, there (provided Islam is correct). If you die in a Holy War, or kill someone who is not a Muslim in the name of Islam, YOU WILL MAKE IT TO PARADISE!!! WOOHOOOO. But you must kill, not in self-defense or in service for your country. Well actually, it could be in service to your country if it's a Muslim country. But still, I don't really want to kill anyone to get myself to heaven(or on the other hand, die). If I am really concerned about others, I might try to tell them about how to get to heaven, not kill them to get me to heaven(paradise).
btw
Christianity: End goal-
-how to get there= say what? WAT? I won't say it again, but there it is. Christianity doesn't emphasize works or good deeds to get you to paradise. ( "heaven" is actually complicated, because it is pretty much eternal life on earth, but I will talk more about "heaven" in Christianity some other time.) All the other religions we looked at require much effort and even pain to get us to our end-goal, but this religion is sealed by a one time act. As I said before, I will go into salvation more in-depth at a later time, so...yeah).
So I pray that this "god" you believe in will come and touch your heart. I don't know what you believe this "god" is and does, but I hope that "god" talks to you. You're smart, I'm sure you'll realize as you get older what this is all about. I'm pretty sure you understand that not everyone can make it into a happy afterlife if there is so much "badness" in the world. Our lives must have meaning if there is a god, afterlife, and right and wrong.
This post has been edited 2 times. Last edited by EpicSkills32, Nov 3, 2013, 4:41 AM