What I Don't Like in Advanced Math Textbooks

by rrusczyk, Jun 17, 2006, 3:21 PM

Now that I'm 3/4 of the way through writing the Intro to Geometry textbook, I've finally started doing some serious thinking about what I think makes a good math text. I was prompted to think about this in more detail recently when I realized that it's the absence of good math texts that is in part responsible for the fact that I stopped independently studying higher mathematics. (There are a stack of other reasons I won't go into, but if there were excellent teaching texts, I would probably still be learning math outside the math I learn through AoPS.) Later, I'll come back to what I'd like to see in a textbook, but at this point I'll focus on what I think is wrong with textbooks - this is what inspired us to write the original AoPS, and what inspires us to write the new AoPS series.

Simply put, most advanced texts are not written for people to learn from. Non-advanced books aren't any better, as usually they offer little more than simple recipes, with no deep appreciation of the subject offered. I think the fatal flaw many of the authors made when writing advanced books is striving to present the mathematics in a clean, professional way. That probably sounds like something to strive for, but it doesn't work in a math text. It's perfect for a reference book, but for an instrument of learning, it's usually a disaster. The fatal flaw in the basic books (e.g. middle and high school texts) is that they are written for a market that has warped math education into its current form. I'll focus mainly on my complaints about advanced books, since the shortcomings of standard middle and high school texts for eager students are, well, self-evident to most math lovers. It's less obvious to a mathematician unaccustomed with education why the advanced books are not effective.

First, the books are written in the style of a professional mathematician. The trouble here is, if the book is meant to be used for learning, as opposed to for reference, then the target audience should be people who are NOT professional mathematicians. The style should reflect the reader's level of understanding mathematics, not the authors'. And to the argument 'they have to learn to read professional mathematics', I counter that there are far better places to do that - readers are struggling enough to grasp the material, why complicate it by making the language and style foreign, as well. Furthermore, the argument that 'they have to learn to read professional mathematics' is somewhat akin to just giving them the book in plain (un-compiled) LaTeX and saying 'well, they have to learn how to deal with LaTeX'. Absurd. Teach one thing at a time. Teach math with the textbook, teach style with professionally written mathematics on subjects the students already know.

Next, the '60 pages of vocabulary followed by 150 pages of the theorems and corollaries' structure that many books follow is excruciating. The 60 pages of vocabulary is nearly impossible to wade through - I have several books in number theory, graph theory, algebra, etc., that I would love to learn, but there's not a single interesting idea in the first 30 pages; however,I can't understand the interesting ideas once they're presented without the vocabulary. It doesn’t have to be this way - maybe I can't do the high powered stuff without the vocabulary, but throw the reader the bone - give the reader something interesting to think about. I refuse to believe there's no way to engage the mind without first defining everything in sight.

Then there's the 'theorem and corollary' structure. This is entirely encyclopedic - here's the info. It's not instructional. There's no motivation for why we think of these things (and I'm not talking about the standard US textbook with their so-called 'real world' problems, a trap I fear MATHCOUNTS may have fallen into, but that their skilled question writers might dig them out of yet - a rant for another day). I'm talking about inspiring the readers to develop the ideas on their own. Sure - you need a trail of breadcrumbs for the reader to follow, but make them walk the trail.

But when they walk the trail, provide some reinforcement - textbooks without solution guides are poison for self-study. (As an aside, if I had to name one failing of Zeitz's Art and Craft of Problem Solving, a book I highly respect and use in the Independent Study, it would be this - virtually no solutions.) Rigorous, efficient self-study should include some sense of discipline for 'time to give up on this problem, read the solution and learn from it and move on' (and perhaps revisit the problem in a week or two to confirm I've internalized how to find the solution). This is very difficult, if not impossible, without solutions.

I'm not sure what inspires these shortcomings in most books. I think the style and structure issue are a result of people too far removed from the learning process themselves. (It may also be a demand of the marketplace - the people making decisions about buying a book to be used as a text in a class expect an encyclopedic book they appreciate, as opposed to an effective teaching tool.) As for the solutions issue, skipping that has a clear motivation - they're a grind to write!

However, I think at heart, the problem with the books is that the writer does not understand the audience. A perfect example of this is Feynman's Physics Lectures. They're brilliant, and I love them. They were largely a result of his teaching the intro physics at Caltech. They were an utter failure then, as I understand, and the Lectures make clear why. They are brilliant and wonderful, yet completely useless for anyone who has not already internalized the ideas of physics to some degree. This explains why grad students and young professors would attend the lectures by the end of the semester, but most of the new Caltech undergrad students had already bailed. This last bit may be legend, but it doesn't change the fact that as a pure teaching tool to new students of physics, the Lectures are a failure. However, as a book written for a person already conversant with physics and math, they are a gem.

This, then, I would ask of text authors - know who your audience is, and write the book they want. I hope we are doing this in our new series. Our audience is a student who wants to learn math but doesn't already have some degree of experience in whatever it is we're writing about. I'll write more later about what I think an ideal textbook should be, and how I hope we're reaching it with the new series.

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I want you to write my calculus book. Or at least a series of articles.


I would pay you. Lets start a fundraiser.

by PenguinIntegral, Jun 17, 2006, 3:22 PM

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PenguinIntegral wrote:
I want you to write my calculus book. Or at least a series of articles.


I would pay you. Lets start a fundraiser.

:)

We'll be doing that eventually. Don't know if it'll be in time for you, though.

(My pipe dream that will likely never be realized is a book that integrates physics and calculus/linear algebra instruction. Won't happen, but it would be way, way cool if done right.)

by rrusczyk, Jun 17, 2006, 3:22 PM

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Given the amount of math you know, it has always amazed me how well you can relate to students at all levels. Teaching is truly your calling. You have a gift and it is so great to see that you gave up your job at DE and Shaw and took a risk with AoPS.

You're my hero, Richard :)

by joml88, Jun 17, 2006, 3:22 PM

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rrusczyk wrote:
PenguinIntegral wrote:
I want you to write my calculus book. Or at least a series of articles.


I would pay you. Lets start a fundraiser.

:)

We'll be doing that eventually. Don't know if it'll be in time for you, though.

(My pipe dream that will likely never be realized is a book that integrates physics and calculus/linear algebra instruction. Won't happen, but it would be way, way cool if done right.)

Its been done. The local college library has one, but it was checked out when I went last(place crying emicon here).

It looked pretty cool, but only covered electromagnitism and newtonian mechanics, and was done like in the 80's..... :?

It looked awesome though!

by PenguinIntegral, Jun 17, 2006, 3:22 PM

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I agree with this entry. A lot of times I want to attempt harder problems, but the books I've checked out are way too dry for my interest. Problem Solving Strategies is a big example.
The only advanced books (i.e that teach pre olympiad/ olympiad math) in a fun, suitable way for high schoolers I've seen are AoPS V.2 and ACoPS (even though it doesn't have solutions). Most other books I've seen (such as Polynomials (forgot author) and Introduction to Number Theory by Ivan) are very useful for olympiad prep but are way too dry and unappealing for me.

by 1234567890, Jun 17, 2006, 3:22 PM

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This entry completely reflects my thoughts on the advanced math textbooks on the "reference shelf" at Mathcamp. Although they did not begin with 60 pages of vocabulary, the text was extremely dense and hard to get through. They provided no motivation for proving/deriving the theorems on your own. After reading the first chapter of a graduate level text, I put it down and never picked it up again. I found it impossible to learn from.

Also, you make a very interesting point about the "real-world" problems. I think many people have a hard time understand what problem-solving is and they think that these problems that relate to the "real-world" will make math more interesting and exciting. "If the shape of your school is a tetrahedron..." It's completely nonsense, and not problem-solving at all.

by bubala, Jun 17, 2006, 3:22 PM

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It certainly isn't easy to read an advanced math book. I can only read for half an hour or so at the most at a single sitting before getting exhausted (and after that it just goes in one ear and out the other). For a while I was annoyed with myself because of my lack of attention span, but I don't think that's it. But there are some tricks you can use to help understand them better. For one thing, I almost never use paper when reading a math book (unless I'm actually solving problems). That helps me to increase my ability to visualize things and to understand concepts intuitively. Unfortunately, intuition in mathematics is a dangerous thing -- that's why lots of theorems have very strange conditions attached to them. I also read books aloud most of the time (or at least when there aren't TOO many other people around to spread rumors about my insanity -- oh wait, they already do that) and throw in random comments that I find useful. I don't know if it's useful to others, but I tend to remember things that I hear very easily, whereas mentally scanning some text is somewhat less natural to me. Even so, there are some books that should be at an appropriate level for me that are completely impenetrable. (Most books by Serge Lang fall into this category.)

Unfortunately, it seems some authors try too hard to present a talkative book at the cost of convincing the reader that rigor is unimportant. I'd say Hatcher's book on algebraic topology is a good example (although it seems that practically everyone else thinks this book is the best thing since sliced bread). Sure, I can understand what he's saying mostly, but if you don't know actual theorems properly, then it's tough to solve any problems.

It would be interesting to see if you (or someone else, for that matter) could come up with a satisfactory book on some advanced math topic based on whatever it is that should replace definition-theorem-proof-corollary format. I want to write one on group theory, a subject which seems most unintuitive to me, but I don't have a clue how to start.

I basically agree with your points, especially about books without solutions.

by ComplexZeta, Jun 17, 2006, 3:22 PM

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ComplexZeta wrote:
It would be interesting to see if you (or someone else, for that matter) could come up with a satisfactory book on some advanced math topic based on whatever it is that should replace definition-theorem-proof-corollary format. I want to write one on group theory, a subject which seems most unintuitive to me, but I don't have a clue how to start.

I basically agree with your points, especially about books without solutions.

It's on the to-do list (writing advanced books the way I'd like to see them), but it's pretty far away. (And I won't be the one writing those - in some cases, I'll be learning from them, which is part of the reason I'd like to find someone to write them.)

by rrusczyk, Jun 17, 2006, 3:22 PM

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As someone who is about to read a large dose of college math texts, I hear this argument loud and clear. :D

There are two things that really bug me when I read math texts (but anything really): 1. When material is presented in an unnecessarily rigid and boring fashion. This causes my eyes to glaze over and my head to nod off in boredom. 2. When material is presented too slowly. If I read something, I want to get to the bottom of it, quickly and effectively. Excessive indulgence in axiomatizing trivial results is something I can do without. I want to see something shocking, something clever.

Yet rigor and definitions are necessary in any serious presentation of mathematics.

Multivariable Calculus and Complex Analysis are awesome subjects. They have immediate, spectacular applications. It is less clear to me whether I will enjoy my first serious doses of Abstract Algebra and Topology, although the profs seem entertaining enough in lectures.

Conclusion: It definitely isn't easy to write in an interesting manner that still conveys knowledge efficiently. When you figure out how, please let me know.

And now to get to that reading...

by Mildorf, Jun 17, 2006, 3:22 PM

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I think the difference of opinion I have with writers of these collegiate texts can be summed up in that one phrase you use: 'conveys knowledge efficiently'. A list of definitions and theorems (which to some extent is what these books are) 'conveys knowledge efficiently', while a book with 100 extra pages that engages you more deeply and is more approachable might be said to be inefficient.

As for rigor and definitions in 'serious mathematics', I think that can be attained in a better manner. Moreover, I don't think authors should approach textbooks as writing 'serious mathematics'. They should approach it as teaching serious mathematics, which is a different matter, entirely.

by rrusczyk, Jun 17, 2006, 3:22 PM

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A very interesting post. I have been trying to do as you have been doing, self-studying advanced mathematics, but for me "advanced" means anything beyond precalculus. I have a couple of thoughts about your predicament, which I hope will help you get far enough along in learning the advanced math you want to learn to write those textbooks you desire to write. :)

1) Paul Halmos wrote in his "automathography" I Want to Be a Mathematician that he would pick up a math book and read until he couldn't go farther, then pick up another math book and read it until he had to stop, then pick up another book, and so on. He said he read "the first ten pages of a lot of different books," and that is what kept him current in the mathematical literature and productive much longer than most mathematicians. I find that I can get twenty pages into a book that originally had me stuck at page 10 if meanwhile I have read lots of other books.

2) One hyphenated word: Springer-Verlag. I know ComplexZeta finds the Springer-Verlag texts indispensable, and more readable than most, and so do I. A local mathematician (Chicago Ph.D.) first got me turned on to the Springer-Verlag books, and they are almost uniformly excellent. If you want books with lots of interesting problems that tie ideas together, try anything by John Stillwell.

3) My Amazon.com wish list

http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/wishlist/104-4280088-4471143

lists books that are supposed to be good about math or ancillary subjects that I haven't found in my friendly local university library. Those I have found in my friendly university library or other nearby libraries, which I keep in a separate list, I will email to you. Especially the second list, the books that I have in many cases had a chance to see, are sufficiently comprehensible that you would probably enjoy them, with your much greater math background.

tokenadult

by tokenadult, Jun 17, 2006, 3:22 PM

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Tokenadult, that link doesn't work. Well, it works, but it takes me to my wish list instead. (I spent a few seconds trying to figure out why your wishes were so similar to mine, in fact.)

Yes, I do agree that the Springer Verlag books tend to be excellent. Also excellent are the books by John H. Conway (published by A.K. Peters) and the analysis lectures by Elias Stein and Rami Shakarchi (published by Princeton University Press). I think the Stein and Shakarchi books are amazing for their clarity of presentation -- they're easier to read than most novels. And they have hard problems!

by ComplexZeta, Jun 17, 2006, 3:22 PM

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Hmmm, let's try this address:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/2P52A4V9IFDAA

I wonder why Amazon codes wish list links the way it does?

by tokenadult, Jun 17, 2006, 3:22 PM

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Would you mind writing a text in Analysis and Algebra too?

I think the same problem exists in college level teaching. Many profs are sitting up there 100 feet in the air and yelling "jump" to their students below. Some people are just really smart or naturally organized self teachers (students with Pogo sticks). But it would be mighty handy if teachers (and texts) would be willing to throw down a rope so students could climb up.

I have heard it said that college students want to be spoon fed information but I think that it is more accurate that many students just want a spoon.

I really hope that what you are doing with your texts will catch on and that other people will learn from what you are doing right.

But you know if all texts were written like Feynman's lectures we still would be much better off than we are now.

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