Quitting

by rrusczyk, Jul 6, 2009, 10:12 PM

(No this is not a Sarah Palin entry.)

Mid-way through my workout today, I started thinking about quitting, both in the specific and general sense. I read an article recently arguing that mild depression developed through evolution as a mechanism to help people abandon unreasonable expectations. I have no idea if that's accurate: a lot of the evolutionary explanations I see for how animals behave seem like untestable make-believe to me. Not quite hokum, but not nearly science. But it did get me thinking while at the gym about two questions:

1) How do you get yourself to quit when you should indeed quit?

2) How do you prevent yourself from quitting when you shouldn't quit?

I realized today that when I'm successful at either one of these, usually the key is having reasonable expectations in the first place. If I go to the gym expecting to do 32 sets and 30 minutes on the bike, I'm way more likely to quit at 12 sets than if I go expecting to do 20 sets and some ab work. So, whether or not that researcher was right about the evolutionary source of depression, I think there's something to the idea of reasonable expectations being a source of happiness.

Anyone else have good gimmicks for addressing either of those questions above? And make no mistake, they're both important. Sometimes it is very much time to call it a day. (Not meant to be a defense of Palin -- I can't understand the people who are arguing this is a political masterstroke, particularly without having the whole story yet. Whatever the story is, I'd love to be the campaign manager running against her in her next election if she has one. Talk about a cakewalk... OK, maybe it turned into a Sarah Palin post after all...)

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quit what?!

by Poincare, Jul 7, 2009, 12:04 AM

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Anything. Surely you've quit something before! I have a long list of things I've quit at just the right time. Like grad school :)

by rrusczyk, Jul 7, 2009, 12:14 AM

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Having reasonable expectations requires some experience to begin with. People often expect too much or too little when starting out. For example, I wouldn't be surprised by hearing a beginner runner saying 'I'm gonna win that 5K race next Saturday' nor would I be surprised to hear them say 'I'll never be able to run a half marathon'.

I've found myself to rarely quit what I'm doing and I would attribute this to me doing what I'm passionate about. I've spent a lot of time pondering what I'm doing, why I'm doing it, and where I want to be later on in life. I have in no ways figured everything out and completely understand the 'turtles all the way down' sentiment you mentioned in a recent post. Basically, I'd say that what keeps me from quitting is undertaking tasks that I really want to accomplish almost no matter what and then going at them with an aggressive, ambitious, yet realistic outlook.

That said, there have of course been times when I've had to quit. At these points I had to seriously reconsider what I was doing and why. I would weigh all kinds of pros and cons and eventually come to the hypothesis that quitting would be better for me (usually by freeing up time/resources to do other things).

by joml88, Jul 7, 2009, 12:16 AM

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I should also note that I think that the farther you get away from the nice, neat world of K12 school, you'll have to ask and answer these questions a lot more. So, yeah, I expect I'll have to think about this a lot more in the next 5-10 years ;)

by joml88, Jul 7, 2009, 12:18 AM

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Greater self-awareness? I have gotten myself into two seriously bad situations in my life. Even though the circumstances of the two were quite different, they had the same warning sign: I felt like all of the life had been sucked out of me. If I had thought harder about what made me feel that way, I probably would have been able to identify the bad situation and get myself out a lot quicker.

by Osud, Jul 7, 2009, 2:24 AM

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Whoa, for a moment I thought you were considering about quitting AoPS... :o

by FantasyLover, Jul 7, 2009, 2:40 AM

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Um, no. It took me long enough to find something I really, really like to do. I'm not ready to quit yet.

by rrusczyk, Jul 7, 2009, 3:50 AM

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Interesting theory that depression evolved to keep us from setting goals too high for ourselves. Your example of a workout could apply to many different areas of life. However, I have found that giving up an activity - which I have done many times in my life - brings both shame and relief. Shame because I wanted to be able to complete the tasks I set for myself, but relief because I really had set my goals too high.

by inscrutableroot, Jul 8, 2009, 10:34 PM

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