MIT Math Jam

by rrusczyk, Sep 5, 2008, 12:57 AM

As many of you probably know, in recent years, MIT has arguably moved ahead of Harvard in terms of the number of top math people it attracts. I think their admissions office deserves a lot of the credit for this, and this is in no small part the work of Matt McGann, Assistant Director of Admissions. I believe he spends more time really understanding the landscape of programs for high school students than admission officers anywhere else, and an indication of this is the fact that he takes the time to host a Math Jam on our site each year. This year, the Math Jam will be on October 23, at 7:30 PM ET.

Joining him will be another person responsible for the spike in math talent at MIT, math professor Kiran Kedlaya. Very few professors have the time or inclination to stay involved in math education at the high school level, and very few are actively involved in recruiting talented students to their schools. Somehow, Kiran manages to do both. He'll be joining Matt in the Math Jam, as he has done every year.

If you're wondering why MIT has become the place to be, stop by the Math Jam and see two of the people most responsible for it.

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:-/

I would note "arguably" as being the key word in the above

by MysticTerminator, Sep 5, 2008, 1:57 AM

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You may be a pretty heavy thumb on the scales, but you're not that heavy ;)

by rrusczyk, Sep 5, 2008, 3:07 AM

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sorry, didn't mean to come off as arrogant -- I wasn't really thinking (primarily) about myself

by MysticTerminator, Sep 5, 2008, 2:55 PM

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This blog entry from Matt McGann is interesting. In the most recent International Olympiads in Math, Computer Science, Physics, Chemistry, and Biology, 13 students on the US teams were seniors. Of those 13 students, 10 are going to MIT. Looks like MIT pwned all.

by Ravi B, Sep 7, 2008, 1:13 PM

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It's easy to confuse "getting a lot of students" with "being the best place to try to get to"; all the evidence presented so far has certainly pointed to the former but not to the latter. At this level, one might imagine that American Olympians could have their pick of colleges, but this really isn't the case. Harvard and MIT may have comparable student populations, but Harvard focuses on so many variegated fields as compared to MIT that the chance to get in "as a math person" (or in this case, as a science person in general) is usually far different between the two. Even more so, MIT would seem to have more of a focus on the Olympiad aspect of math whereas again, Harvard takes a more broad and diverse approach, so that perhaps not even most of the math slots will go to kids who went the Olympiad route. (Now, I think that some of the decisions Harvard made this year in terms of rejecting certain students really were just major screwups, and I really am fairly disappointed in this.)

by MysticTerminator, Sep 13, 2008, 6:25 AM

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I think the difference between Harvard (and my alma mater, Princeton) and MIT is in their approach to diversity. I don't think it's the case that Harvard isn't letting some of these focused math/science people in because it has so few places and must allow people in for other areas of study -- Harvard is much bigger than MIT. Harvard/Princeton aims for diversity (which they call well-roundedness) in each individual much more than MIT does. I think this is a big mistake, and results in MIT getting more probable future superstars than Harvard/Princeton do. MIT gets its diversity by aiming for superstars in multiple areas without worry about whether each superstar is good at other areas. Harvard aims at more "well-rounded" people, and will catch some "superstars" in that crowd. MIT's approach is more well-suited to today's world. The focused superstars are in much greater demand than the less-focused, more well-rounded "good at many things, not great at any" students that Harvard and Princeton gather.

Again, there are focused superstars at Harvard/Princeton, too -- it's just that MIT is more likely to accept them, and, I think, has a higher concentration of them now than Harvard/Princeton/Stanford/etc. And I think this has to do mainly with their approach to admissions.

by rrusczyk, Sep 14, 2008, 4:56 PM

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