The Biggest Missing Piece in Education of Top Students

by rrusczyk, Jun 17, 2006, 3:21 PM

I'd love to say it's AoPS, but it's not.

While here in NYC, we visited the Darwin exhibit at the Natural History Museum. I saw there an important aspect of Darwin's education that I'm pretty sure we could find in nearly all great scientist/mathematician's education (and great artists and inventors as well). The common thread to nearly all these 'great thinkers' is time. Nearly all of them had some period early in life during which they had the freedom to explore intellectually. Darwin's came after he flamed out of a couple schools out of sheer boredom.

For most top students, there is no time in high school. That's a brutal shame. Instead, they're busy punching their college application cards, because that's what the system has trained them to do. They get good at 23 things, because allegedly that's what Harvard wants. However, that's not what the world wants, and that's not what most people want for themselves. If you do, fine. But most people who really excel in life do so because they find something they are passionate about and do it. And then do it some more. Maybe it's 2-3 things they become outstanding at, but it certainly isn't 97 things they are merely passably good at. Bizarrely, our current educational system (and it's the perception of our current college admissions system) doesn't allow for unstructured exploration or for focused excellence. There's no free time - there's just enough time for the next activity. The result is a striving for unfocused mere goodness.

I'm fairly certain that had I gone to a boot-camp college prep high school, there would have been no AoPS, and considerably less career success in other areas as well. Instead, I went to a run-of-the-mill public high school before the '15 APs or bust' era of college applications. I had oceans of time, and used it (mostly) well. Now, I think this path is open mainly only to homeschoolers, though a few schools still are able to provide freedom to their students.

If we at AoPS ever build a school (pipe dream #137), a big part of it will be free time. Let the students learn less - but empower them to be able to create more.

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You guys should really build on that dream. I'd give up my school any day for that! :D

by amitavadhar, Jun 17, 2006, 3:22 PM

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amitavadhar wrote:
You guys should really build on that dream.
You mean #137? You have no idea about #135 if you say that! :D

It was the same for me in highschool. But in Romania it's a custom widely accepted for good students to just skip classess and prepare for the Olympiad ... I guess that's yet another reason for us doing good at the IMO.

by Valentin Vornicu, Jun 17, 2006, 3:22 PM

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Is there a list of your pipe dreams? If not, you should make one. :P

by mysmartmouth, Jun 17, 2006, 3:22 PM

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Totally agree. I wish I were at my old school where I had more time to focus on math and running. Now I'm stuck at a college-prep school that is obsessed with high passing rates on a graduation test and intruding into your social life.

by drunner2007, Jun 17, 2006, 3:22 PM

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Seems like this was posted a while ago, but I really want to respond to this!

One thing that I find particularly interesting in light of this is that often when I tell other kids things such as "I'm going to be very busy tonight," they automatically think that I mean homework. However, I find myself having to explain to them that I do other things besides homework - math, and other activities as well. It seems that, for most people, what they think of as success is working hard on school homeworking. It seems like they don't realize that there's anything academic (or even non-academic, for that matter) outside school.

I've noticed that I often spend a lot more of my time, rather than doing organized activity, like sitting and (home)working, I often go around exploring anything I can find. Sometimes (although maybe I shouldn't do this so much because it's not good for me) I go on the internet and go from website to website, soaking up every little piece of information or anything interesting I can find. Sometimes I find balls or other small objects that I can throw around, seeing what happens, making experiments, trying to create little games, finding anything interesting. Other times I'll go through books or whatnot, such as looking through numerous amounts of ancient yearbooks or school newspapers from my school, or now and then various old books or large referential books (though not enough time reading actual novels). Other times I, for example, when I'm bored, I like to experiment with cooking, or try to figure out where the different pipes go in my house. Heck, I'm probably even "wasting" time now going through old blogs.

I have noticed that I'm probably more into math than most other things, and I like to spend as much time as possible working in that (but of course not just math). I remember at the beginning of the year I tried academic decathlon, but eventually ended that so that I'd have more time to focus on math. I often find myself experimenting with mathematical ideas, looking up mathematical facts, or sometimes I randomly go and try to do some problems. I have found some trouble getting myself to go and do some math practice (like catch up on woot, do practice olympiads, read certain books, etc), but hopefully I will start to do that.

by calc rulz, Mar 14, 2007, 9:59 PM

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